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re: CFP...Perfect Size?
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:22 am to Pelican fan99
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:22 am to Pelican fan99
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I really don't get why they didn't just go to 6 if they wanted to expand. You could test out the first round bye in this format. Going from 4 to 12 is just so crazy
Not true. This two year experience is needed to get ready for 2026. That is where we will have a pretty good idea what the conference will be like and the playoffs format will be set to see how it goes for this year and next year. This is due to the new NIL and transfer portal rule change.
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:26 am to Northern Gator
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Perfect Size?
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:26 am to southernboisb
Thought from the beginning 6 with a bye for the top 2 teams was the max it should go.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 6:29 am to BeerSlayer
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Since the inception of the 4 team playoff 7 of the 10 NC games have been decided by 15 or more points.
I wouldn't call two scores a blowout, though.
9 of the 16 BCS championship games were decided by two scores or less.
5 of 10 in the CFP championship.
You're never going to eliminate that due to the size and disparity of the college football landscape. But more games means more whittling down the pretenders. Makes for some bad football but hopefully better late round games.
4 wasn't enough but I'll never understand the jump right to twelve.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:02 am to southernboisb
6 or 8 if you get rid of conference championship games. I’ve never seen 8 legit teams in one season. Uga possibly has to dispatch Texas for the third time, Oregon will have to dispatch osu again for the second time. Why even name a conference champ. Would anyone care Oregon is big champs if osu wins it all? Give the big and sec champs a bye and let the next best four conference champs have a play in
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:19 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Or - 12 teams, can keep the auto bids,
frick that shite. The #16 ranked team had no business being in a 12 team playoff.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:21 am to Rip N Lip
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Four teams is enough now that there are only 4 Power conferences left.
Again with this shite about "power conferences."
There aren't 4 power conferences. There are only two. Anyone who can't grasp that just doesn't do college football very well.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:22 am to southernboisb
1. 8 teams ranked based on equal weight of win/loss record and strength of schedule
2. no auto-bids
3. all games are bowl games at neutral sites
2. no auto-bids
3. all games are bowl games at neutral sites
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:22 am to TrueLefty
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Alabama losing to Vandy and OU is not acceptable.
What's not acceptable is putting the #16 ranked team in a 12 team playoff ahead of #15, 14, 13, and 11.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 7:23 am
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:28 am to TrueLefty
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This is about using common sense.
Common sense??? His point was that your comment about Bama losing to Oklahoma and Vandy is completely irrelevant to the topic of the thread, which is how many teams should be in the playoffs. That's why he thinks you're a fricking moron...because you can't grasp that simple concept. Bama losing has zero to do with the thread topic.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:51 am to southernboisb
No need for a playoff. Just award the championship to the team that best worked the portal and has the largest NIL budget.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:58 am to jonnyanony
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I wouldn't call two scores a blowout, though. 9 of the 16 BCS championship games were decided by two scores or less. 5 of 10 in the CFP championship. You're never going to eliminate that due to the size and disparity of the college football landscape. But more games means more whittling down the pretenders. Makes for some bad football but hopefully better late round games. 4 wasn't enough but I'll never understand the jump right to twelve.
Scoring margin has actually been more than my post indicated by mentioning 15 points.
22-28-17-28-15-58-21
That’s an average of 27 points for the 7 games decided by 15 points or more
The average point spread for all 10 games is 20
Even if you throw out the 58 point blowout it’s still an average of 15.8 points for the other 9 games.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 7:59 am to southernboisb
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Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:02 am to BamaGradinTn
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Alabama losing to Vandy and OU is not acceptable.
What's not acceptable is putting the #16 ranked team in a 12 team playoff ahead of #15, 14, 13, and 11.
Why are you telling me that? I am not on the committee. I know for sure that Alabama losing to OU close to the end of the season isn't good for Alabama. The committee probably saw that and lost 3 games as well. That is why next year will be another test to see how things goes before making any changes to the playoffs format. In 2026 there will be more changes to conferences and playoff format. This is like a test to see how things are going for this year and next year before making any changes.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:09 am to southernboisb
Four teams are enough to figure out who has the best team. Undoubtedly, among the top four ranked teams, one of them is the best. By opening it up to more than that, you're watering down the importance of regular season games.
The current playoff system isn't about determining who the best team is for the season - it's about making money through increased TV viewership. It's entirely possible, and maybe even probable, that the 12-team playoff will backfire on them when people realize that there's nothing exciting about watching a serious contender absolutely curb-stomp another team who has no f***ing business even being in the same town on the same night. At that point, TV viewership will fall below a number that advertisers are willing to pay for to secure a spot during the game.
Keep it at four teams to ensure a better product.
The current playoff system isn't about determining who the best team is for the season - it's about making money through increased TV viewership. It's entirely possible, and maybe even probable, that the 12-team playoff will backfire on them when people realize that there's nothing exciting about watching a serious contender absolutely curb-stomp another team who has no f***ing business even being in the same town on the same night. At that point, TV viewership will fall below a number that advertisers are willing to pay for to secure a spot during the game.
Keep it at four teams to ensure a better product.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:12 am to Swamp Angel
I think 14 is good…
5 auto bids
Top 2 get byes (SEC and Big Ten Champ)
9 at larges
Play at home field until the Semis.
5 auto bids
Top 2 get byes (SEC and Big Ten Champ)
9 at larges
Play at home field until the Semis.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:22 am to Swamp Angel
Nawh, some years there's more than four teams who should face off. And letting a couple of undeserving play is the risk of letting everyone have a chance. This year one of the usually deserving simply got publicly bitch-slapped for being in the discussion but not good enough.
Leave the number where it is for a couple more years, until we see more, and not make knee jerk changes to placate or suit one butt-hurt team.
Leave the number where it is for a couple more years, until we see more, and not make knee jerk changes to placate or suit one butt-hurt team.
This post was edited on 12/23/24 at 8:25 am
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:48 am to TrueLefty
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Alabama losing to Vandy and OU is not acceptable
I agree.
The problem occurs when you have AQs, and you tell me that the winner of the Big 12 and the Mountain West are "equal" to the winner of the SEC and entitled to a BYE. And therefore the second-place Big 10 teams (Indiana) or the second-place ACC teams (SMU) are better than all but one additional at-large SEC teams in a 12-team tournament.
Everyone needs to stop paying attention to Alabama and ask why Ole Miss, South Carolina, or even Colorado were left out, and Boise State was allowed to have a first-round BYE.
The winning argument isn't "Why was Alabama left out," it's "Why are we treating these conferences like they are exactly the same?"
There is no such thing as regular season parity, so there shouldn't be parity in the selection process.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:49 am to GeauxBurrow312
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Or - 12 teams, can keep the auto bids, and seed the teams as they are actually ranked with no byes
That's not possible. 12 teams cannot participate in a tournament without 4 teams skipping the first round.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 9:18 am to southernboisb
Six is probably about the max on teams who actually can win it all.
I really don’t have a problem with 12, but get the best 12.
Sagarin I’ve always liked, because you can see its methodology, and it’s consistent.
Boise State got a bye, and is 28th
SMU doesn’t make it, Clemson doesn’t make it.
Colorado does, but South Carolina wouldn’t. Which while I would not agree with, if I’m going to take something and be consistent I’d just have to be ok with.
I really don’t have a problem with 12, but get the best 12.
Sagarin I’ve always liked, because you can see its methodology, and it’s consistent.
Boise State got a bye, and is 28th
SMU doesn’t make it, Clemson doesn’t make it.
Colorado does, but South Carolina wouldn’t. Which while I would not agree with, if I’m going to take something and be consistent I’d just have to be ok with.
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