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re: CFB Rankings (#1-130) Beta Version #1 (entire rankings and data included)

Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:11 am to
Posted by nastywideouts
Member since Sep 2018
1577 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Iowa has 2 quality wins so far. Ole Miss has 0.
Iowa hasn't faced an offense in the same stratosphere as OM's offense. That's not debatable.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
20176 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Do think I'll tinker with Sagarin next week.


I’ll grab the Sagarin for you if you tell me what you want.. I can post it here in a format (hopefully) that you can just copy and paste into excel.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:12 am to
Is there a good place with accurate data sets? I’ve always stayed away from it because you’d really need all numbers for all teams to really have the best data. Way too much work.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:14 am to
Thanks Big Bro - I'll post something this weekend.

Moment - yea, collegefootballdata.com

It's got everything. Really cool.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:17 am to
Thanks boss. I’ll look at it later.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
4098 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:26 am to
The jury is not still out on Corral. He led the nation total offense last year. And he’s been better this year.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:31 am to
quote:

The jury is not still out on Corral. He led the nation total offense last year. And he’s been better this year.



Ok.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16546 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:35 am to
Miami one spot ahead of UAB... Humm think that is probably about right.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
35208 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Raw = (((SP+FPI)/2)*40%) + ((SOR+GC/2)*55%)) + (Avg Win Prob *5%)

So, in theory
- 55% "strength of your resume/profile"
- 40% "how good you are"
- 5% "how dominant have you been regardless of opponent"

It's obviously a sliding scale of how important you think each area is - I only barely used average win probability because it's not attached to any sort of opponent adjustment, so Boston College is #5 on Avg WP but only #46 on Strength of Record because they hammered Colgate and Temple and were up from the start against UMass. I mean that's good, it's better than the alternative, but SOR kind of explains to the user that "yea, but a bunch of other teams would do the same thing".



Do you ever provide the numerical data alongside it?

I like being able to see the difference between rankings, as sometimes the difference between, say, 2 and 3 is bigger than the difference between 4 and 10.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:43 am to
I have it - will screenshot and post
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 9:56 am to
Added to first post
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:32 pm to
Serious question:

How the heck can Oklahoma be ranked so high when their 3 wins are the following:

Win over FCS Western Carolina
Narrow win over Tulane, who was destroyed by Ole Miss
Narrow win over Nebraska, who lost to Illinois

How in the world does that garner a #12 Strength of Record and a #13 Game Control rating?

I mean it sort of puts into doubt the entire list.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:38 pm to
uhhh O$U way to low . They are still top 10 team duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:39 pm to
please IOwa would shut down Ole Mississisppi . They havent seen a defense like Iowa's . duhhhhhhh
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

uhhh O$U way to low . They are still top 10 team duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


OSU is only in any Top 10 because of their name.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

How in the world does that garner a #12 Strength of Record and a #13 Game Control rating?


That is a very good question. I'd assume on SOR because Nebraska is ranked #31 in FPI and Tulane #69 - and I think that SOR basically treats 1AA games as not even happening, so it would look at Oklahoma as having played 2 games against an average opponent of #50 or so. And that's probably higher than most, I'd guess.

That's my guess at least. As far as game control, they were ahead vs Tulane and Nebraska basically the entire games, so I'd guess that plays into it, compared to say A&M who trailed Colorado for most of their game
Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:26 pm to
ok ill buy that for now but BAMA is #1 for their name only as well .Georgia would shut them down . Oregon would beat them on neutral field etc...BAMA is prob 4 or5 realistically right now
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

ok ill buy that for now but BAMA is #1 for their name only as well .


#1? Maybe. Ranked in the top 5? Clearly not.

Posted by massilsu
Oz
Member since Sep 2020
1947 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 3:07 pm to
Iowa would beat BAMA . Mich St would be an even game vs BAMA . BAMA is a bit overrated this yr .Just like Clemson and Tex AM are heavily overrated .I know more about college football in my left than all u necks know yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesummerofgeorgefartscumeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23761 posts
Posted on 9/22/21 at 3:11 pm to
Its about time Arkansas helped our SOS instead of hurting it.
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