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re: Census Data - SEC State Population Changes 2010 to 2020

Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:36 pm to
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Posted by Bama Bird
Member since Dec 2011
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:37 pm to
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San Francisco
Portland
Seattle
Austin
Denver
Nashville



Huntsville's next: hopefully Jefferson/Shelby can contain it better than Oregon and Colorado did.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6010 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 7:47 pm to
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If conservatives are worried about the blue wave (I think its conservatives migrating for most part), then they need to allow city/county secession w/n their own states. Decentralization is the true key to freedom.


Ironically, there are some lefties out there who think the same thing (anarcho-communist). Essentially the American conception of “libertarian” is just an anarcho-capitalist.

Not really a horseshoe theory guy but further breaking down autonomous state-like units in this country is a legitimate option for a pressure relief valve in our current political loggerheads. Unfortunately, there is the global competition problem that basically necessitates weaker states and more federal power. Not really sure there is a good answer for where to enshrine the most power. My hunch is that the federal systems you see in the Americas are going the way of the dodo bird simply due to the unavoidable realities of global competition requiring a very powerful state that can redirect domestic effort on a dime. As long as we don’t all end up having to be on D.C timezone like the Chinese with Bejing then I reckon most will not notice the day-to-day difference.
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:01 pm to
So you think the population growth was greater than the official numbers, due to illegal immigrants?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22878 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:14 pm to
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2020 Census Data

Percentage Change in Population (2010-2020) (out of 51, including DC)
3. Texas (+15.9%)
9. Florida (+14.6%)
11. South Carolina (+10.7%)
13. Georgia (+10.6%)
18. Tennessee (+8.9%)
27. Oklahoma (+5.5%)
28. Alabama (+5.1%)
34. Kentucky (+3.8%)
36. Arkansas (+3.3%)
40. Missouri (+2.8%)
42. Louisiana (+2.7%)
50. Mississippi (-0.2%)


Numeric Change in Population (2010-2020) (out of 51, including DC)
1. Texas (+3,999,944)
2. Florida (+2,736,877)
4. Georgia (+1,024,255)
11. Tennessee (+564,735)
14. South Carolina (+493,061)
24. Alabama (+244,543)
25. Oklahoma (+208,002)
28. Kentucky (+166,469)
29. Missouri (+165,986)
32. Louisiana (+124,385)
34. Arkansas (+95,606)
49. Mississippi (-6,018)


I lived in 4 different states during that time. But if you only count the first and last then I went from California to Florida.

I won't even show up on the other 2 state stats, even though I only recently moved to Florida. I also only spent about 2.5 years of it in California.

The decade before it was 3 states, but the first and last would be - to Alabama and + to California.


Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:18 pm to
What's going on in here?
Posted by macjonesgoat
Member since Feb 2021
898 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:23 pm to
When did you move away from California?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6010 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 8:32 pm to
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What's going on in here?


just rambling about bullshite that won’t happen
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20663 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 9:10 pm to
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316. Mobile, AL (-376)


7th fastest growing county in the entire country is in that MSA, and they managed to somehow lose population?
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20663 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 9:42 pm to
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So from the GOP perspective, what's the problem then?


Because Diego is wrong. 7 states are losing seats, while six are gaining them. On the surface, it looks like a net gain of a couple for Republicans, but there is already discussion in New York of redistricting so that the current count of 19-8 in favor of Democrats will be 23-3 after the redistricting. They aren't looking at just taking out one R seat for the one they're losing, they intend to gerrymander out 3 to 5 of them.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
6010 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:04 pm to
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Because Diego is wrong. 7 states are losing seats, while six are gaining them. On the surface, it looks like a net gain of a couple for Republicans, but there is already discussion in New York of redistricting so that the current count of 19-8 in favor of Democrats will be 23-3 after the redistricting. They aren't looking at just taking out one R seat for the one they're losing, they intend to gerrymander out 3 to 5 of them.


I feel like you’re ignoring that the GOP can and will be an active participant in the redistricting gerrymandering proceedings. The Dems, as you mentioned, seem poised to break the seal on some of their last ditch efforts to maintain a majority for a little while longer but if the demographic trends maintain for another decade then the GOP ought to be able to more consistently win the House in the future. I wasn’t really talking about next mid-term timescale anyway. The medium-term direction seems to be more positive for the GOP than many seem to realize.

The Dems can aggressively gerrymander like the GOP did in 2010 but that GOP advantage got washed away by January 2019. I imagine the Dems effort may buy them 2-3 house cycles at most. Considering they’re Dems, they’ll probably negotiate themselves off the maximal partisan position and lose the majority in the house by 2024. Seems like the most lib thing they could do.

Eventually your party runs out of gerrymandering and has to start winning states back and reconstructing their state legislatures to benefit the voting power and geography of your bloc. I don’t really think the Dems are likely to be able to achieve that in Georgia and Texas because the GOP realized the demographics shifts long ago and they’re doing as good of job as they can at monkeying with things to make that transition long or impossible.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37764 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:16 pm to
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America's population grew by 22,703,743 from 2010 to 2020.

34% of that growth occurred in Texas, Florida and Georgia.




Not even counting the illegals
Posted by TheGreek
Historic Brookhaven
Member since Jun 2012
234 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:22 pm to
This state has changed so much in the 20+ years I’ve been here
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 8/13/21 at 10:44 pm to
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West Virginia lost 59,278 people - 3.2% of their population.


Depends upon who they lost, that may be addition by subtraction.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22878 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:07 pm to
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When did you move away from California?




The summer of 2012.

Spent little over a year in Tennessee, then moved to Arizona the weekend of the 1st Alabama Ole Miss loss.

Been in Florida the past 2 years.
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:11 pm to
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Uh, Jackson has been totally hijacked by liberals. They have the city council , the crazy lib mayor etc etc. They have destroyed that city and soft on crime. It’s why myself and most left


Jackson's always been crummy
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:12 pm to
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Been in Florida the past 2 years.




Wya?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22878 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:12 pm to
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This state has changed so much in the 20+ years I’ve been here



It's crazy when I go back home to Alabama how much things have changed over the past 15-20 years since I lived there.

So much new growth. But then at the same time areas that were newer back then are now grown up more with trees etc.

Last summer when I was there I basically spent a day driving around looking at all the changes.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22878 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:17 pm to
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Wya?


I buy houses on the side and Tampa has a great market, and at the same time I'm only about 9 hours away from family driving vs 3 days.

I had looked into the Huntsville area, but it's not as great of a market because it's mostly new builds going up. I buy older houses.

Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 8/14/21 at 1:18 pm to
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That's wild.

Metro Auburn added more people than metro St. Louis.



Because St. Louis is terrible
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