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re: Can we talk about the 1H fumble situation in LSU-Bama?
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:12 pm to JPLSU1981
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:12 pm to JPLSU1981
There is one truth in this BS scenario … if it were Bama recovering the ball the interpretation would have flipped
Kelly shut them up with that 2pt magic
F SEC Officials
Kelly shut them up with that 2pt magic
F SEC Officials
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Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:24 pm to Damone
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LSU player already had possession of the ball, so the out of bounds portion of it should never have come into play.
They (both the Replay Officials and the TV Analyst) independently ruled that possession had not been established yet. Yes, he had both hands touching the ball, but they ruled he had not controlled it before the ball was touched by the ineligible player.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:37 pm to Tupelo
quote:means less than Kirk saying it is wrong or the fact that the LSU player’s finger BENT BACKWARDS in the video but hey the “ball didn’t change trajectories”. Get out of here with this bull shite.
and the TV Analyst)
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CALLS ARE RULED IN BAMA’S FAVOR?
I will. $$$$$ to get to UGA and Bama in another championship game with Bama making the playoff and not Tenn because of the way they lost. Every single one of those LSU Bama games were for the SEC west.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:41 pm to Tiger1988
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PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CALLS ARE RULED IN BAMA’S FAVOR?
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:53 pm to JPLSU1981
Will never happen again no worries
Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:02 pm to Tiger1988
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means less than Kirk saying it is wrong or the fact that the LSU player’s finger BENT BACKWARDS in the video but hey the “ball didn’t change trajectories”. Get out of here with this bull shite.
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CALLS ARE RULED IN BAMA’S FAVOR?
I will. $$$$$ to get to UGA and Bama in another championship game with Bama making the playoff and not Tenn because of the way they lost. Every single one of those LSU Bama games were for the SEC west.
Because only LSU fans watch the games looking to find ways they can be the victim.
Most people don't watch the game looking for anything that can loosely called holding, and instead understand it will only get called when it's really bad and near the ball.
Most people don't watch the game and determine any penalty that happens against their team is bullshite.
Most people accept what the rules are when they are explained to them.
Most people know still frame shots of a football game are bullshite.
Most people are able to recognize that sometimes they also get beneficial bad calls and keep it in mind.
Most people aren't so desperate over football that they have to pretend a bunch of extra shite is true.
If they only wanted Alabama to win, LSU wouldn't have won.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:30 pm to JPLSU1981
I do not care about the rule. I knew the rule beforehand. I want it explained how he had evidence to overturn the call on the field. Only way you get 100% confirmation on anything I seen is all people favoring one team. Sometimes we try to get too perfect with review. If it is not obvious it stands. Neutral parties should not even be able to dispute the evidence.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:48 pm to 3down10
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Because only LSU fans watch the games looking to find ways they can be the victim.
Not a victim at all. I’ve earned everything I’ve ever gotten. This isn’t only about LSU fans. If you don’t think money makes the world go around, you’re stupid.
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Most people don't watch the game looking for anything that can loosely called holding, and instead understand it will only get called when it's really bad and near the ball.
One was overturned in Bama’s favor and one was ruled in their favor and wasn’t over turned..
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Most people accept what the rules are when they are explained to them.
Rewatch the UK and Missouri game and google that fricking bullshite spewed about a fricking tackle box that a fricking Aussie kicker was outside of - wait he wasn’t because the fricking tackles were at the fricking sideline by the fricking time he picked up the fricking ball. Total bull shite call. I can give 2 shots about both of those teams.
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Most people know still frame shots of a football game are bull shite.
Except that’s what they used to overturn a decision.
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Most people are able to recognize that sometimes they also get beneficial bad calls and keep it in mind.
Except this rarely happens when these 2 teams play. In fact, the hiding and take down that allowed Bama to score their last TD before OT was an example of a ref staring straight at Harold Perkins getting grabbed on the face mask and pulled to the ground when Young was scrambling. Nothing was called. Pretty critical time to get 5 seconds to maneuver.
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Most people aren't so desperate over football that they have to pretend a bunch of extra shite is true
It is a pattern. This is a fricking pattern. One data point isn’t a trend.
People keep asking why Nick is now vulnerable and he can’t say shite, I can tell you exactly why. He can’t control the Portal or NIL.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 5:48 pm to NoMercy
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I do not care about the rule. I knew the rule beforehand. I want it explained how he had evidence to overturn the call on the field. Only way you get 100% confirmation on anything I seen is all people favoring one team. Sometimes we try to get too perfect with review. If it is not obvious it stands. Neutral parties should not even be able to dispute the evidence.
People here don’t like the answer, but the irrefutable evidence is over most people’s head. But, did have clarification on this call Monday.
With respect to this play, listen for the WHISTLE. That is when the ball is ruled dead. That is when the recovery was determined (he was on the ground). So, if the ball is touched by Latu before that, it’s irrefutable evidence ball was touched BEFORE possession was determined on the field.
Specifically, this happened:
1) On the field, it was ruled that Brooks had established possession of the ball at 1:17 seconds (end of play).
2) Anything before that is irrelevant b/c replay would need CLEAR evidence. Replay could not find it. There is a still image here with 2 hands on ball by brooks but replay could not find irrefutable evidence that ball was secured here—it was batted away and remember the ruling on field was it was not secure yet.
3) Did latu touch the ball before 1:17? Yes, which is why they reset the clock to 1:20 left in half.
The only question that replay had to really answer was if the ball was touched by an out of bounds Latu before 1:17. And it was irrefutable.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:26 pm to Tiger1988
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PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THE MAJORITY OF THOSE CALLS ARE RULED IN BAMA’S FAVOR?
BECAUSE YOU ARE DELUSIONAL.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:54 pm to TFS4E
Good analysis but the point is and has ALWAYS been...IF there is anyway a marginal call can favor the tide...then so be it ! At least 3-4 instances in this close game of 50/50 calls all going in favor of the gumps...this is simply uncanny OR, by design. History OVERWHELMINGLY shows gross favoritism to the tide...this is undisputable and we can only hope that the rest of the SEC will continue to LOUDLY complain to the SEC and the bias refs on the field !
Main reason Kelly went for two was of a real concern the refs would continue to favor the gumps !
Main reason Kelly went for two was of a real concern the refs would continue to favor the gumps !
Posted on 11/8/22 at 7:36 pm to tickfawtiger
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Main reason Kelly went for two was of a real concern the refs would continue to favor the gumps !
I haven’t seen any evidence of this.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:29 am to tickfawtiger
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History OVERWHELMINGLY shows gross favoritism to the tide...this is undisputable and we can only hope that the rest of the SEC will continue to LOUDLY complain to the SEC and the bias refs on the field !
Yeah, like when the refs threw those two Tennessee players out of the game this year for blatant targeting against Bryce Young (affecting the whole dynamics of the game), and the refs called that block in the back on LSU's 2nd touchdown in overtime, and have penalized Alabama's opponents more than them for the last decade. Wait, none of those things happened. You see what you want to see. That's why they call us fans, short for fanatics. If the refs wanted to favor Bama so bad, why didn't they just throw a flag for a pick play on the two point conversion? It's always just a judgement call whether it's a rub or a pick, they wouldn't have drawn much criticism for that (not saying that there was a blatant pick on the play). Or called holding on an offensive lineman? Holding could be called on virtually any given play for any team. Because there was no bias, no grand conspiracy, except in your mind. You won, be happy, savor the moment.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:30 am to JPLSU1981
It was the correct call. But it’s a bullshite rule that hopefully will be changed
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:39 am to Tupelo
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and the refs called that block in the back on LSU's 2nd touchdown in overtime,
Shouldn't holding have been called on Alabama's TD to go up 21-17 when Alabama's OL literally GRABBED Harold Perkins' jersey has he was about to sack Young on 3rd and long?
You don't honestly think there was a pick on the 2pt play? Y
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:39 am to paperwasp
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Since possession did not change,
If Mond had possession and his knee was down in 2018, Brooks had possession with his knee down in 2022.
It’s not the rule I’m necessarily frustrated with, it’s the inconsistent application.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:41 am to 3down10
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Because only LSU fans watch the games looking to find ways they can be the victim.
Says a fan of the team who still belly aches about Preston Gothard vs Penn State in 1983.
The Gumps are the biggest hypocrites on this board.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:24 am to The Eric
Eliminate the application of this rule in live Ball fumble situations. This is a passing rule developed to keep receivers from running routes out of bounds. A passing rule applied to a live ball fumble situation is a misapplication of the rule.
Clarify that it does not apply to any situation other than passing.
Further, the offensive player certainly should be able to take position of the ball with one body part out of bounds. They couldn't advance it because the play would immediately be dead, but recovery/possession... Sure.
Clarify that it does not apply to any situation other than passing.
Further, the offensive player certainly should be able to take position of the ball with one body part out of bounds. They couldn't advance it because the play would immediately be dead, but recovery/possession... Sure.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 11:52 am to JPLSU1981
I had the game on in the background while I had guests over, and had no idea why they made the call they made.. Looked like LSU's ball to me?
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