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re: Can we all admire how terrible these calls were?

Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:53 pm to
Targeting

Targeting

Your only hope in any argument about this is to say it wasn't intentional, which #1 was and #2 was probably foolish lack of control by a player who is accustomed to getting away with this type of penalty activity by claiming it was an accident.

Posted by bmy
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:54 pm to
Lol no. You have 8 pages of homework to catch up on.

Let's see some similar ejections where the rule was enforced in the same manner.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:58 pm to
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you're kidding which of those hits were unsafe?


Petition your president to go to NCAA and have the rule changed.

LSU is a big program. If you withdraw from NCAA they will probably change the rule to keep you happy.



Wait a minute?



You are not that big or important?


They won't?


OK - I have received a ruling from NCAA.


You are shite out of luck.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:59 pm to
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OK - I have received a ruling from NCAA.


You are shite out of luck


They ruled this targeting an ejection too even after review

minnesota vs Purdue
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 2:59 pm to
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Your only hope in any argument about this is to say it wasn't intentional,


Intent doesn't factor into it; pulling up doesn't factor into it.

The rule may be despised, but it is the rule.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:00 pm to
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Intent doesn't factor into it; pulling up doesn't factor into it.

The rule may be despised, but it is the rule.


Demonstrably false. Read a few pages prior.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:00 pm to
#48 hits the QB's helmet with the crown of his while loading up and leaving his feet. As cut and dried as it gets.

The other retard takes 2 steps after the ball is thrown and hits helmet to helmet. Again, simple for everyone to see not in a state that calls counties parishes.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:02 pm to
no.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:03 pm to
All three were bad and the offensive pass interference cost us a TD. But none of them cost LSU the game. MSU outplayed us, no question. LSU got their butts handed to them along with their pride. Hope they can shake it off going forward but my hope is waning.
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:03 pm to
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Demonstrably false. Read a few pages prior.


Demonstrably true. Hell, look at the Minnesota-Purdue targeting-- the kid ducked his head to avoid a bigger head to head hit, arguably. Didn't help him, because it still was helmet to facemask on the backside-- though it could have been much worse had he actually been headhunting. It was still ruled correctly, and got him tossed.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:04 pm to
That's Bush league

Also makes bmy further look like an idiot
Posted by bmy
Nashville
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Demonstrably true. Hell, look at the Minnesota-Purdue targeting-- the kid ducked his head to avoid a bigger head to head hit, arguably. Didn't help him, because it still was helmet to facemask on the backside-- though it could have been much worse had he actually been headhunting. It was still ruled correctly, and got him tossed


The officials were wrong. The hit was delivered with the shoulder in a perfectly legal manner.

The rules clearly require intent to satisfy any targeting call.
This post was edited on 9/17/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:14 pm to
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bmy


I will give you this. If I want to ring a guy's chimes I would do just what those two defenders did and whack him in the face guard with my helmet. If that is what I was taught, somewhere in my mind I would understand that the intent of such a hit is to take the QB out of the game.

Do the defensive players at LSU practice this in order to get so good at it that folks like you can question the severity of the hit when the officials throw a flag and then laugh at "That pussy" when the opposing QB gets a stinger that puts him out of the game, or breaks his neck and leaves him paralyzed from the chest down?
Posted by MeridianDog
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Where exactly was he "taking aim" at if not the neck/helemt area? at the shoulders/chest area. clearly not the neck. clearly a horrible call and i won't be surprised when the suspension is lifted. he won't get an apology though.



Suspension lifted?




Get an apology?



Don't hold your breath on either.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 3:27 pm to
That PI was correct. It was a pick play and they called it on MSU a few drives later for the exact same thing

The roughing the passer calls were correct as well as targeting. I don't think the players deserved to be ejected though
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 5:50 pm to
no but I think you probably are
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

The rules clearly require intent to satisfy any targeting call.


You can keep saying this all you want, but since targeting became a focus in football, whether it is how the rule is written or not, the refs flag it without giving two shits about intent. Contact to the head of a defenseless player with helmet or pads, flag. Every fan, coach, or fricking two year old in the country would tell you this.

Sure, maybe the rule doesn't read like that...but you coach your players up on how shite gets called in the real world. Like holding; grab handfuls of jersey all you want between the tits, and it won't get called even though by rule it is holding.

Give it up man.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:32 pm to
All three were good calls
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 6:38 pm to
The FBI

Call it.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/17/17 at 7:31 pm to
quote:

You can keep saying this all you want, but since targeting became a focus in football, whether it is how the rule is written or not, the refs flag it without giving two shits about intent


Thank you. Is this so difficult for people to admit that that officiating crews enforce this penalty outside of the rulebook?
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