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re: Can UF upset LSU?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:13 pm to G8TRGRT
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:13 pm to G8TRGRT
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First off Missy I talk and see the players on a daily basis. Secondly while u play with the UT figs in Austin some of us actually intereact with the players in real life in Baton Rouge.
Please provide proof of said arrogance, thank you.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:14 pm to G8TRGRT
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Links!!!!! exactly!! LOL
You do realize you're on the internet, right?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:16 pm to cas4t
Nah didnt know I was on the Internet. Explain!
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:17 pm to cas4t
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Please provide proof of said arrogance, thank you.
Or maybe a specific example, sourced or not. Arrogance is a subjective word, maybe biased by the one who perceives it. What specifically has players said or done that could be considered arrogant as opposed to say confidence, or even over-confidence?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:20 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Or maybe a specific example, sourced or not. Arrogance is a subjective word, maybe biased by the one who perceives it. What specifically has players said or done that could be considered arrogant as opposed to say confidence, or even over-confidence?
That's way too nuanced a question for this dude.
Watch out he's going to drop some homophobic slurs on you for questioning him.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:22 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Sometimes confidence can be over shadowed by a sense of entitlement. At Florida, players that came in that had a sense of entitlement because they felt like that they was at Florida that everything would just work out. There is no college team that has gone on for over 10 years that has run into the same problem Florida ran into since the 1980's. It just always happen. Ask Miami, Notre Dame, Floriida St, or Florida.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:25 pm to G8TRGRT
I doubt it, but anyone who says no chance apparently doesn't understand major upsets happen every year in college football and then people act all shocked when it happens.
Hell the Zooker took down one of LSU's greatest teams of all time with a mediocre bunch @ Tiger Stadium.
Hell the Zooker took down one of LSU's greatest teams of all time with a mediocre bunch @ Tiger Stadium.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:25 pm to G8TRGRT
We don't care about Notre Dame or Florida State. Give us some specific examples of how you personally know of current LSU players displaying an arrogant attitude. And don't tell me about not taking North Texas or Idaho seriously or something because that's not the same thing as playing at Florida.
This post was edited on 9/16/12 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:25 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Or maybe a specific example, sourced or not. Arrogance is a subjective word, maybe biased by the one who perceives it. What specifically has players said or done that could be considered arrogant as opposed to say confidence, or even over-confidence?
This is easy. To most opposing fans LSU is arrogant. To most LSU fans LSU is confident.
The truth is in the middle usually. The success that LSU has experienced lately leads to both. The balance tilted somewhat when Tyrann left the program.
Guys on a good D always look arrogant when they are playing well IMO. I don't care what team colors they wear.
This post was edited on 9/16/12 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:27 pm to boXerrumble
Anything can happen. But if LSU avoids the catastrophic turnovers and can run the ball, I give us the advantage. LSU's depth at running back this year will wear most teams down. LSU's inherent advantage, more than pretty much any other team in the NCAA, is the ability to continually sub in fresh backs with the hope that the opposing team's D will eventually break.
Florida's best chance is if Mettenberger tries to do too much, or gets rattled by the atmosphere in the Swamp, and starts making huge mistakes. For LSU's sake I am really glad Florida won last night... if they go into the LSU game undefeated our team is likely more focused.
Florida's best chance is if Mettenberger tries to do too much, or gets rattled by the atmosphere in the Swamp, and starts making huge mistakes. For LSU's sake I am really glad Florida won last night... if they go into the LSU game undefeated our team is likely more focused.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:29 pm to G8TRGRT
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It just always happen. Ask Miami, Notre Dame, Floriida St, or Florida.
Okay, I think I see what you are saying. Right, LSU is not immune to this just like every other club. USC fell of before Petey. There's other examples. Could well happen to LSU after CLM retires. The sense that 'this is the current reality so it will always be true'. I doubt there is a cure for this. Just have to suffer a downturn and realize that it must be earned every single down, game and season. And like I posted earlier, if LSU breaks out the picnic basket for a series or two against UF they'll be in trouble. Arrogance might be too strong a word, imo, but I see what you are saying.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:32 pm to roadGator
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Guys on a good D always look arrogant when they are playing well IMO. I don't care what team colors they wear.
I think the younger set calls this 'swag'. Is this a bad thing?
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:34 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
I notice a lot of LSU fans in this thread think: "Can UF upset LSU?" means "UF will upset LSU".
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:37 pm to boXerrumble
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I notice a lot of LSU fans in this thread think: "Can UF upset LSU?" means "UF will upset LSU".
Not really, most every LSU fan has said yes, they definitely can.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:37 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
All I was saying is that I have witnessed personally what LSU is going through right now and it always comes to an end. And usually it's because of arrogance from the fan base and the team. We all are guilty of reading the press clippings and listening to the cooler talk. There is a lot of that going on in Baton Rouge right now. Just like last year, anyone who wasn't an LSU fan last year saw that Alabama beat LSU everywhere on the field except the scoreboard in their first game. In the second game, it was the same thing except ALABAMA capitalized on their scoring opportunities. LSU's arrogance showed up in that game because they won the first game and tried the exact same thing the second game with no adjustments.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:38 pm to boXerrumble
Yeah, there's a big difference in the two phrases. I think anyone who watched Driskell and UF's 2d half adjustments, realizes UF has the ability to beat anyone. I didn't read whole thread to see in what context 'arrogance' came up.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:38 pm to G8TRGRT
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All I was saying is that I have witnessed personally what LSU is going through right now and it always comes to an end.
Wow. Expert analysis.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:40 pm to G8TRGRT
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with no adjustments.
What adjustments? Put Lee in to throw 3 picks? CLM was between a rock and a hard place. NM, done deal, game over, next.
Posted on 9/16/12 at 1:45 pm to G8TRGRT
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All I was saying is that I have witnessed personally what LSU is going through right now and it always comes to an end. And usually it's because of arrogance from the fan base and the team. We all are guilty of reading the press clippings and listening to the cooler talk. There is a lot of that going on in Baton Rouge right now.
And again, exactly what have you "witnessed"? Why won't you give specifics? You don't even have to name names just give us a personal experience. With what you're doing right now you're coming off like you're making this all up.
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Just like last year, anyone who wasn't an LSU fan last year saw that Alabama beat LSU everywhere on the field except the scoreboard in their first game. In the second game, it was the same thing except ALABAMA capitalized on their scoring opportunities. LSU's arrogance showed up in that game because they won the first game and tried the exact same thing the second game with no adjustments.
For someone who supposedly knows so much more about football than the rest of us, this is pretty amazingly wrong.
#1 in the first game the LSU defense consistently put Alabama in bad situations in which they weren't able to convert long field goal attempts. It was a very good, defensive football game that could have easily gone wither way but to say that bama dominated the game everywhere but on the scoreboard is just flat out wrong.
#2 In the rematch, LSU did make adjustments. They tried to throw the ball down the field more than they did in the first game but just couldn't do it because JJ was on his back the whole game. On defense they focused on shutting down Richardson and force AJ to beat them with his arm which is the only way to beat Alabama last year and unfortunately for LSU he was successfull in exploiting the underneath stuff as the LSU linebackers in coverage was the 2011 LSU defenses' one weakness. Alabama was just the better team that day.
I'm starting to really doubt that you even played college football because it's pretty clear you don't know what you're talking about.
This post was edited on 9/16/12 at 1:47 pm
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