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I agree they should have just left the BCS rankings in place to decide the 4, but ultimately each team will control its own destiny. A one loss SEC champ should be enough to get in each year. I'm also glad they're leaving it at 4 teams, there are no more than 4 each year who deserve to be in the hunt. It preserves the regular season, and prevents a repeat of seasons like 2004.
2000 was fun but it's difficult to top the second half of 2001. The monster offensive performance at Bama, then the four game run of Arkansas, Auburn, Tennessee, Illinois.

A span of a five weeks saw our first ever division title, first conference title in 13 years, and first major bowl win In 31 years.

Following the 90s, after all the losing, that was a pretty special run. 10-3 is pretty average now, but back then it was a blast.

re: Alleva backs beer sales

Posted by Carlos on 3/6/14 at 8:16 pm
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Umm, no....that's been dissed many times already...


It's cited in the OP's article. Alleva's quote is from another article linked within, about the conference reviewing its alcohol policy.

re: Alleva backs beer sales

Posted by Carlos on 3/6/14 at 7:49 pm
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So why doesn't he do it? Who has to approve this if not the AD?


The SEC. It's currently prohibited.
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Slightly related to thread topic.

How many Dinardo recruits received 2003 National Championship team rings?



Donnie Jones, Eric Edwards, Rodney Reed, Blain Bech were the only one remaining from the 1999 roster. So just four.
Well in 2011, you can at least say that a flipped result in the Jan 9 game means we win it. So we did control our own destiny until the very end. Depends if you think we were really better than them and should have beaten them in the Dome.

I wanted to say 2012, from the standpoint that a flipped result with Bama means we play ND... but Georgia in ATL would not have been a given. Same with 2006 and Auburn... just means we get a rematch with UF, who was just as complete a team as LSU that year. 2005 we wouldn't have had a shot, even if 12-0... we wouldn't have jumped Texas or SC. 2008/2009 we were just not a very good football team and no one game on the schedule made a difference.

The most difficult thing to this day, is thinking back to 2006, where we had all the momentum in the world, Alabama was stagnant with Mike Shula, and yet between then and now they have completely bypassed us as a program.

I guess the answer to your question is, how much of Les' responsibility was it to stop Alabama's rise to prominence, or how much do we view this as inevitable on their part? They've run roughshod over the rest of college football... was LSU in a unique position to stop them, and just stood by idly while it happened? Or is it more acceptable just because they beat everyone else as well? Because they're the primary reason we don't own at least one more NC and maybe even two. Without them, the SEC and college football are basically ours.
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Saban winning with Dinardo's players 2001, 2003


2001 yes, 2003 no. Only 4 players from the 1999 roster remained on the 2003 team.

re: Best Uncrowned Teams:

Posted by Carlos on 4/7/13 at 11:59 am
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How is 2004 Auburn not #1? THat team had 4 1st rounders on it, including 3 in the backfield. 10 guys on the offense alone went on to play in the NFL.



Doesn't matter anyway. 2004 Auburn almost lost to the 2004 LSU team at home, and needed a major break to keep from going into overtime. Can't imagine how they would fare against 2011 LSU.

2011 LSU went through the season without even a close game - except Bama. Also took down the PAC12 and Big East champs (who also won their respective BCS bowls) away from home. 2011 LSU might have the most impressive season in the history of college football in terms of strength of schedule... at least of those teams who ran through it undefeated.

There is no comparison between the two.
Johnny Jones is in year one of a rebuilding project. In Saban's fist year at LSU, we were thrilled to win any SEC game. Hell, we rushed the field for an overtime win over 11th ranked Tennessee.

Things are different when you're an established program. And then add to it, in football a single regular season game can determine your postseason fate. In the other sports, the stakes of losing are not as high.
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Justin Vincent was solid in the post season.

Cecil Collins



Neither played as true freshmen.
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Tough to go against Hilliard, but Ben Wilkerson came in as a true freshman and started at center for the 2003 team. He would have been a certain first-rounder had he not torn his patella tendon in a blowout win against Vandy with only seconds left on the clock.



Wilkerson was a junior in 2003.

My vote goes to the three main ones mentions before- Kevin Faulk, Dalton Hilliard, TM7. Hard to distinguish between those three.

Honorable mentions go to Michael Clayton and Laron Landry.

re: '13 -Best/Worst Case Scenarios?

Posted by Carlos on 1/12/13 at 10:53 pm
To answer OP, we probably go 8-4. Losing to Ags, Bama, Georgia... then probably lose one out of Arkansas, Ole Miss, TCU, Florida and State.

ETA: this is the best case scenario. Too many losses on the defensive side of the ball, and it's doubtful Miles will be changing his offensive philosophy. So when we spot the other team a deficit, like the Texas A&M game this year, the defense is not going to be able to hold the other team all game, while waiting for the offense to finally click.

Just don't see it happening. Lost too many players.

Worst case scenario is almost unthinkable... with bad breaks we're looking at 6-7 losses. Programs like Texas and Georgia weren't immune to it, neither are we if things start to get really bad.

re: '13 -Best/Worst Case Scenarios?

Posted by Carlos on 1/12/13 at 10:51 pm
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12 regular season games
SECCG
2 game playoff in the new arrangement

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


Playoffs do not start until the 2014 season. BCSNC is in Pasadena next year, to conclude the rotation.
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No. They got the "Miles transitional track" treatment. But I don't remember the exact conditions during that time. I imagine much has to do with the timing of programs and their hiring needs. We made have just been extremely lucky that year.



Mallory and Peveto each landed their new jobs, and we signed Chavis, prior to the Chick-Fil-A Bowl. Mallory/Peveto coached the bowl game with Chavis waiting in the wings to take over afterward. Chavis' was free in November 2008, as Tennessee did not go to a bowl game that season.

re: If Dinardo would have fired Tepper..

Posted by Carlos on 1/11/13 at 1:08 pm
To answer the OP question, no. Even the staff of 1997 managed to lose three games inexplicably, to lesser talent. We were good for an occasional Atlanta run, that was probably the ceiling.

Not enough emphasis on facilities at the time. This was a hallmark of Saban and Emmert. Our recruiting was never going to be at the level Saban brought it to. Guys like Clayton and Spears would have never gone to LSU... Clayton's said as much. The state was never locked down, and for some reason LSU seemed to have trouble recruiting many of the NOLA high schools... one poster previously mentioned Ed Reed, he was signed by a Miami coaching staff that arrived the same year (1995) that DiNardo's did at LSU, with a team on probation. Saban was finally able to overcome that and find more recruiting success there. The large number of players who didn't qualify, as mentioned before, depleted our roster depth noticeably.

Also, people forget the out-of-state blue chip recruits we've signed under Saban and Miles, integral to our success in the 2000s. Louisiana talent, while a huge advantage, wasn't enough by itself to meet all our needs- this was the final missing piece. Addai, Russell, Bowe, Flynn, Patrick Peterson, etc... to my knowledge we never signed a single player of that caliber from out of state during the 1990s.

re: How Come we didn't Hire Jimbo Fisher?

Posted by Carlos on 1/10/13 at 6:00 pm
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The ghost of Mike Archer played a big part in the thought process, I'd imagine.


This is the main reason. LSU was only five years removed from the 1990s at that time. This was before the recent successes of in-staff promotions like Bielema, Butch Jones and Chip Kelly. LSU had sound reasoning, and Bertman seemed to conduct a pretty thorough coaching search. Main candidates before Miles were Butch Davis (still being paid by the Browns, not to coach), and Bobby Petrino.

Of the remaining coaches available, Miles seemed to be the only one possessing the following characteristics: 1) NFL coaching experience 2) Successful head coaching experience at a BCS conference. Miles was one of four major hires in college football that offseason- the other theee being Meyer at Florida, Weis at Notre Dame and Spurrier at South Carolina. Miles hasn't fared so badly compared to the others, and keep in mind that each of those schools announced their vacancies in November 2004 or earlier, giving them about a month head-start on LSU (Saban resigned on Christmas Day).

I can't really fault the approach Bertman took with his coaching search in 2005. A program of our stature should primarily look at coaches with head coaching experience.
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I remember the ESPN commentary in the week leading up to our game against Bama. Bama was still undefeated and ranked third. The issue was what should be done if Bama remains undefeated along with Texas and USC? They came to the conclusion that Bama would have to move up because they will have played and beaten more Top 25 teams than USC and UT combined. In addition, wouldn't LSU have received the benefit of the doubt having only won the BCSNC two years earlier? Furthermore, didn't everyone want to settle the LSU-USC issue?



UT had Vince Young and offered the dream matchup of the century, vs. Leinart and Bush. The SEC didn't have the clout they do now. There's not a chance anyone would have jumped either team. Especially since the Big XII was still playing a championship game back then, one which Texas won 70-3.
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And in 2005, we were two ravaging hurricanes away from having an undefeated regular season, probably knocking off UGA in the SECCG, and then replacing UT in the BCSNCG and finally having our grudge frick against USC.



No. We would have been left out. SC and Texas began 1-2, and didn't lose.
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Did you see the teams he left for Miles to coach in 2005 and 2006?


This. Nick was going to return his most talented squad in 2005.

re: Let me throw it out there

Posted by Carlos on 1/4/13 at 9:43 pm
If Johnny Manziel had a career ending injury tonight and never played another down, I can promise A&M's offense under Sumlin would never languish like LSU's has the last four years.