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Can Alabama or LSU bump Oklahoma from the number one spot without...

Posted on 9/24/11 at 8:57 am
Posted by flomacanes
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/24/11 at 8:57 am
...an Oklahoma loss?


I know it won't matter in the end as long as Bama & LSU win all of their other games. Honestly any team that comes from the SEC west this year should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma by years end even if they have 1 loss.
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
The Grindfather
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Posted on 9/24/11 at 8:57 am to
Yep if the win impressively
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 9/24/11 at 8:58 am to
I doubt it. Teams shouldn't move ahead of other teams when that team doesn't lose.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:00 am to
I think they should if we are basing this off preseason rankings.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:02 am to
How can a team drop in the polls if they just happen to beat a weak team that week? It's stupid, I think. Until that team loses, they should stay at the same ranking, or move up with a team ahead of them that loses.
Posted by Bobby Moore
Red Hill, Mississippi
Member since Jun 2005
17751 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:02 am to
Okla can only win 12 games with no championship playoff.......so if 2 other teams go 13-0, Okla should be bumped to #3......and not play in the NC game...........
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:05 am to
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so if 2 other teams go 13-0, Okla should be bumped to #3......and not play in the NC game...........


I agree with that.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:05 am to
Just cause a team is ranked high preseason they should keep that rank? If a team is playing great against great opponents then they should move up. If Oklahoma is playing ok against ok opponents then they should be jumped.
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
4159 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:07 am to
That's horse shite to say a team shouldn't jump another team if they don't lose. That's why I hate pre-season polls. Pre-season polls are the main reason for all the controversy at the end of the season on who should go where. College football loses and gains to many players each year to have a pre-season poll.

Personally I don't care if OU stays at #1 but how will Wisconsin and VT feel at the end of the season if OU, (LSUorBAMA) are all undefeated but since OU was pre-season #1 they keep the spot. That's why college football needs a playoff.
Posted by ACT
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:07 am to
If oklahoma played a close game, Clemson beats FSU, snd Bama or LSU win convincingly, yes.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51500 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:07 am to
quote:

onestly any team that comes from the SEC west this year should be ranked ahead of Oklahoma by years end even if they have 1 loss.


So if OU is undefeated they should fall below a 1 loss SEC team?
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20983 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:13 am to
quote:

How can a team drop in the polls if they just happen to beat a weak team that week? It's stupid, I think. Until that team loses, they should stay at the same ranking, or move up with a team ahead of them that loses.



This is the reason that preseason polls suck. With your logic, if they rank Boise and TCU at 1-2 and neither lost they would be in the NC over bama, LSU, etc...


Remember that TCU will be in the big east next year.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:17 am to
Does strength of schedule not matter anymore?
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32655 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:18 am to
quote:

How can a team drop in the polls if they just happen to beat a weak team that week? It's stupid, I think. Until that team loses, they should stay at the same ranking, or move up with a team ahead of them that loses.
You drop them because the rankings are flawed to begin with. OU was number one to start the season in part because they were seen as the team most likely to go undefeated this year, not because they were seen as the best team. They didn't win the number one spot on the field. This is all part of the reason the rankings are a joke.
This post was edited on 9/24/11 at 9:19 am
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:20 am to
quote:

Can Alabama or LSU bump Oklahoma from the number one spot without...


who cares? what does it matter?
Posted by LafourcheTiger
Avarua, Cook Islands
Member since Mar 2009
1850 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:21 am to
Alabama hasn't played anyone yet. This week is their first real game. LSU has beaten a top 5 team, and a ranked in conference MSU team. IF Alabama beats the pigs it'll be a good win, but they still would be lightyears behind LSU.

After tonight LSU would have victories over Oregon, MSU and West Virginia. All ranked. If LSU is ranked 1 after this weekend they will have earned it.

Bama starts earning their rank tonight. As of now they've been given the benefit of doubt. Their defense hasn't played one good offense yet. It's still all hype

Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:22 am to
quote:

I doubt it. Teams shouldn't move ahead of other teams when that team doesn't lose.



idiotic post is idiotic.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Until that team loses, they should stay at the same ranking, or move up with a team ahead of them that loses.


not when they were put at #1 with zero empirical evidence they deserve to be there. If LSU rips WV a new one they deserve to be #1. If LSU wins close and Bama skull fricks Arky then maybe Bama will deserve it.
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32655 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:30 am to
quote:

not when they were put at #1 with zero empirical evidence they deserve to be there. If LSU rips WV a new one they deserve to be #1. If LSU wins close and Bama skull fricks Arky then maybe Bama will deserve it.
Not only is their no actual evidence that OU is the number one team, there isn't necessarily even a consensus opinion that they are the best team. Rankings at the beginning of a season reflect several things such as ease of schedule and probability of avoiding losses. If the voters had voted the team they thought was "best" this year Alabama would have started the season ranked number one ahead of OU and Arkansas would have started the season ranked ahead of A&M and South carolina. The really screwed up thing is these flawed rankings are still present at the end of the season when a team ranked number one at the beginning of the season is still number one because their schedule was easy (the reason they were ranked number one to begin with).
This post was edited on 9/24/11 at 9:34 am
Posted by timmeister
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Feb 2009
588 posts
Posted on 9/24/11 at 9:31 am to
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