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re: Brian Kelly can’t say that he loves beating Georgia.

Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:36 pm to
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No, LSU fans just reject the notion that his past determines his future.


While nothing can predict future results with 100% certainty, past results are a pretty big part of any future prediction.

Surprises happen, but they're a surprise because past results don't suggest it should happen.

Past results don't suggest Kelly will win big games at LSU. But he could surprise us.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40081 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:37 pm to
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Past results don't suggest Kelly will win big games at LSU. But he could surprise us.


It might surprise you, but you're not very perceptive.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66202 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Past results don't suggest Kelly will win big games at LSU. But he could surprise us.


There's only one season of data at LSU to judge from.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22773 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:45 pm to
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Past results don't suggest Kelly will win big games at LSU. But he could surprise us.
And yet, he won vs Alabama his first season. That was the biggest game of the season for LSU. It's one we normally concede out of hand, in the preseason, even when we're good. Nobody ever thinks they will beat Bama, they just hope they can.
Posted by Uga Alum
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 12:48 pm to
Bigger than the SEC Championship game where we dragged our nuts across your face?
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74859 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:22 pm to
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So you're going to pretend that Georgia wasn't irrelevant for 40 years

If you limited your scope to the years of 1984-2001, you might have had a case.

Even for his flaws as a HC, Mark Richt had the Dawgs in the discussion multiple times in the 2000s. It was his inability to have the team ready for the spotlight, or overlooking an opponent as they tried to focus on someone other than whomever was lined up across from them that was the biggest problem until Kirby took over.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22773 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:24 pm to
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Bigger than the SEC Championship game where we dragged our nuts across your face?

Are you fricking serious ?

We weren't supposed to be anywhere near Atlanta, most realistic fans were hoping we'd finish no lower than 3rd in the West and scratch out 8 wins. Losing the opener to Fla State made that unlikely.

Just making the SEC Championship was gravy, and the fact that we scored 30 on the best team in CFB (and best in UGA history) made it even better. We're WAY ahead of schedule.
I can't wait until we get the program back on solid footing, where the portal becomes a luxury instead of a necessity.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
53763 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:27 pm to
Why do people care about what coaches say at fan events.
Fisher and his comments about Saban, who cares.
Bama fans and media get all worked up by some off the cuf comment that ignores the entire point of these gatherings.
Bama fans are so worried about every little comment that coaches make.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66202 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:30 pm to
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Even for his flaws as a HC, Mark Richt had the Dawgs in the discussion multiple times in the 2000s. It was his inability to have the team ready for the spotlight, or overlooking an opponent as they tried to focus on someone other than whomever was lined up across from them that was the biggest problem until Kirby took over.






Just my opinion but I think the average fan overblows the effect of a head coach on a single game.

We're seeing it here with "Kelly can't win big games."

People said the same thing about Richt and they compared Kirby to Richt up until 2021.

The biggest difference that I see between Richt and Kirby is Kirby is stacking much more talent than Richt ever seemed to which definitely helps you win more "big games."

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:41 pm to
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Will Georgia win a CFP that doesn’t include a G5/recent G5 turd?



Don't know and don't care. But two in a row. I have no doubt that LSU has won two in a row, also, though.


Wait. No? Maybe your team should have made the playoffs instead. Nah. We already beat them once last season, and nobody wanted to see a repeat of our DLineman picking up your QB and holding him up in the air to try to protect him again.

ETA
Awwww. Somebody didn't like what I said and gave me a down vote. I guess it's easier to just down vote and run instead of discuss where I was wrong. Some LSU fans seem to think they can troll and put down other fans teams, but nobody should ever respond back.
This post was edited on 5/9/23 at 1:48 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:41 pm to
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The biggest difference that I see between Richt and Kirby is Kirby is stacking much more talent than Richt ever seemed to which definitely helps you win more "big games."

There's absolutely no understating the impact of superior recruiting. Touting a "Top 10 recruiting class" is burying the lede that it might be 7th in the SEC even though it's top 10 overall.

Several of the greatest games/closest wins in Kirby's W column would've absolutely been losses for a Richt-coached team:

-2018 Rose Bowl vs Oklahoma
-2021 Peach Bowl vs Cincinnati
-2022 CFP Championship vs Alabama
-2022 Peach Bowl CFP Semifinal vs Ohio State
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
40081 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:42 pm to
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Losing the opener to Fla State made that unlikely.


I didn't think we'd be bowl eligible after watching that.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Went to one big boy CFP and got embarrassed iirc


I am guessing you don't recall correctly. Would you mind repeating the embarrassing score you are speaking of?

Now, getting trucked by 20 in the SECCG? That was embarrassing.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26141 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:47 pm to
It’s insane that this awful poster has claimed 500 posts in response to an obvious troll. I can’t tell who’s dumber in this thread the troller or the lsu fans taking this shite hook line and sinker
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66202 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:48 pm to
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Now, getting trucked by 20 in the SECCG? That was embarrassing.


Weren't you like 17 point favorites even before LSU's starting quarterback was injured?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Weren't you like 17 point favorites even before LSU's starting quarterback was injured?



I don't know. Why don't you ask Willie T. He seems to be the expert on these games. Why on earth would you come to his rescue?

Notice how I have been arguing against the OP? Sure. We all know he is an alter and is only a troll, but even if it were a legit Georgia fan I wouldn't defend a bad take/post.

If a Georgia fan trolls another fan base I say have at him.....I sure wouldn't defend them once somebody hits them back.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66202 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:52 pm to
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There's absolutely no understating the impact of superior recruiting. Touting a "Top 10 recruiting class" is burying the lede that it might be 7th in the SEC even though it's top 10 overall.

Several of the greatest games/closest wins in Kirby's W column would've absolutely been losses for a Richt-coached team:

-2018 Rose Bowl vs Oklahoma
-2021 Peach Bowl vs Cincinnati
-2022 CFP Championship vs Alabama
-2022 Peach Bowl CFP Semifinal vs Ohio State


Coordinators have much more of an effect on a single game than a head coach so the biggest moves a head coach can make to win "big games" is to recruit well and hire good assistants.

Other than making 4th down calls, a head coach isn't changing a single game much either way just like a CEO isn't determining the outcome of a single project.

It isn't that Lincoln Riley can't win big games, it's just that he hasn't been able to put together a defense that can compete with the elite teams.

Same with Ryan Day to a lesser extent.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3896 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:52 pm to
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Don't move the goalposts now, it's on the first page of the threads you started.


Thanks for proving how sad your life is. Enjoy moving the goalposts and the teenage emojis.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61350 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:52 pm to
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It’s insane that this awful poster has claimed 500 posts in response to an obvious troll. I can’t tell who’s dumber in this thread the troller or the lsu fans taking this shite hook line and sinker


He is a proven alter, so yes. It is amazing that people get sucked into his threads. But, they do.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
66202 posts
Posted on 5/9/23 at 1:53 pm to
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Thanks for proving how sad your life is. Enjoy moving the goalposts and the teenage emojis.






Stop avoiding the questions and moving goalposts.
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