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re: Breaking: Brandon Miller brought gun used in killing following text from Miles…
Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:53 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:53 pm to Pettifogger
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If Miller showed up with the gun and the shooting happened right after the shooter obtained it from him and where Miller arrived happened to block the victim's car, that actually might be a little less egregious/coincidental.
This is why I'd like to actually read the transcript of today's hearing. The way the article quotes it, it's an easy conclusion that Miller intentionally blocked the victim in. But that may not be what the cops actually said. If they believed that Miller intentionally blocked the car in, I have no idea how failing to charge him can be justified.
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Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:53 pm to TTsTowel
Welp that sucks. Silver lining is we probably lose Oats and don't have to fork over the money for a new arena.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:53 pm to WildcatMike
involved yes but in a heroic manner..
Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:53 pm to WDE24
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if Brandon Miller wasn’t Brandon Miller
Meh it is not like we are talking about Michael Jordan here. If you are guilty to accessory to murder you are going to be charged.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:56 pm to WDE24
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Like I said in the other thread, if he was just a regular hood rat, he would be facing charges now.
What charge though? If there were texts from Miles saying "I need my gun so we can kill a dude" and Miller responded "be there in 10 minutes" I can see charges and I'm guessing we would have heard about it along with the other two texts.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 2:56 pm to ETT2001
quote:Unless you already have the shooter and another accessory and the case again Miller will be more difficult. You think same set of facts, but all of the parties are just unknown black men, that a person that had Miller’s level of involvement never gets arrested or charged?
Meh it is not like we are talking about Michael Jordan here. If you are guilty to accessory to murder you are going to be charged.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:00 pm to Tiger_Claw
Reading is a skill.. Miles told Davis ..not Miller
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:00 pm to Eric Nies Grind Time
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don't understand how blocking the escape of a murder victim doesn't result in any sort of charges.
That’s a big question. Blocking the road and bringing the gun are not good looks. Oats statement is pathetic but that’s who he is.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:07 pm to WDE24
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I agree with this. I also think it would be hard for the DA to prove the necessary intent. I further think, for now, if Brandon Miller wasn’t Brandon Miller, the DA would likely have charged him and made that effort (even if they ultimately fell short). Based on what has been released it appears there is enough PC for charges.
The article says Miles and Davis went to the trunk of Miller's car before the shooting, probably to get the gun. There's nothing illegal about bringing someone their property when they ask you for it, and based on the article he didn't hand the gun to anyone.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:09 pm to WDE24
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Unless you already have the shooter and another accessory and the case again Miller will be more difficult. You think same set of facts, but all of the parties are just unknown black men, that a person that had Miller’s level of involvement never gets arrested or charged?
Yes, I think he never catches a charge in this scenario. It being captured on video seems to have more to do with that than who he is.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:10 pm to Auburn80
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That’s a big question. Blocking the road and bringing the gun are not good looks. Oats statement is pathetic but that’s who he is.
All exits clearly weren't blocked. The Jeep was able to drive away after the shooting. Dude made it to the Walk of Champions before finding a police officer.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:10 pm to imjustafatkid
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The article says Miles and Davis went to the trunk of Miller's car before the shooting, probably to get the gun. There's nothing illegal about bringing someone their property when they ask you for it, and based on the article he didn't hand the gun to anyone.
Have you not been following along in this thread? Miller actually pulled the trigger himself while a laughing Oats was on speakerphone in the background. Both clearly guilty.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:11 pm to Marktastic86
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Have you not been following along in this thread? Miller actually pulled the trigger himself while a laughing Oats was on speakerphone in the background. Both clearly guilty.
Yeah this thread is full of people who totally bought al.com's clickbait headline hook, line, and sinker.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:12 pm to WDE24
quote:All involved would be charged with at least something, especially with a shooting near the strip.
You think same set of facts, but all of the parties are just unknown black men, that a person that had Miller’s level of involvement never gets arrested or charged?
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:13 pm to imjustafatkid
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The article says Miles and Davis went to the trunk of Miller's car before the shooting, probably to get the gun.
It also says that Miles had been in Miller's car, and Miller dropped him off at the club. There's a big difference between Miles calling Miller and saying "I left my gun in your car. Can you bring it to me?" and "Go to my place, get my gun out of the bedside table, and bring it to me." I have to believe that the story features the former, as there's no way Miller doesn't get charged if it was the latter.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:13 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:No, it says they retrieved the gun out of the back seat and that Miller’s car was blocking the street where the victims car was parked moments before Davis shot the victim.
The article says Miles and Davis went to the trunk of Miller's car before the shooting, probably to get the gun.
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Two vehicles - a Dodge Charger and a Dodge Challenger that belonged to Miles’ teammates, Miller and Bradley - were blocking the road where the Jeep was parked. Miles and Davis walked to Miller’s car and got something - believed to be the gun - out of the back seat. Moments later, Culpepper testified, Davis began firing through the driver’s side window of the Jeep.
quote:Possibly because Miller and Miles fled when gun shots started being returned?????
All exits clearly weren't blocked. The Jeep was able to drive away after the shooting. Dude made it to the Walk of Champions before finding a police officer.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:16 pm to EarlDibblesJr
the gun was in his back seat..nothing wrong with that it's a jungle
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:16 pm to WDE24
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No, it says they retrieved the gun out of the back seat
This changes nothing about what I said. Trunk, back seat, no difference. He didn't hand them the gun. He brought someone their property but hadn't given it to him.
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was blocking the street
They did such a good job of blocking the street that the Jeep was able to drive away.
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Possibly because Miller and Miles fled when gun shots started being returned?????
Article clearly sates that Miller's car was struck with gun fire during this time, so no.
This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:18 pm to bamawriter
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It also says that Miles had been in Miller's car, and Miller dropped him off at the club. There's a big difference between Miles calling Miller and saying "I left my gun in your car. Can you bring it to me?" and "Go to my place, get my gun out of the bedside table, and bring it to me." I have to believe that the story features the former, as there's no way Miller doesn't get charged if it was the latter.
Yes, it's clear this situation is the former.
Posted on 2/21/23 at 3:21 pm to CrimsonFever
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§ 13A-11-73 Permit to carry pistol in vehicle or concealed on person -- Required; possession of unloaded pistol in motor vehicle. (a) Except on land under his or her control or in his or her own abode or his or her own fixed place of business, no person shall carry a pistol in any vehicle or concealed on or about his or her person without a permit issued under Section 13A-11-75(a)(1) or recognized under Section 13A- 11-85. (b) Except as otherwise prohibited by law, a person legally permitted to possess a pistol, but who does not possess a valid concealed weapon permit, may possess an unloaded pistol in his or her motor vehicle if the pistol is locked in a compartment or container that is in or affixed securely to the vehicle and out of reach of the driver and any passenger in the vehicle.
If they wanted to, they could find a way to charge him. This is blatant accessory to murder.
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