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re: BOOM! WSU's Response To Players That Support PAC-12 Player's Demands

Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52739 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:26 pm to
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Why are you against these kids getting paid for their services?


I'm not, even now college scholarships for football players at high tier schools are estimated to be valued around $150k per year.

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Why should coaches be given millionaire salaries,


Schools don't pay coaches "millionaire salaries."

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most states having a college coach as the highest paid public employee in the state, and fans will find a way to justify why that's acceptable


It isn't hard to justify.

College teams have to compete with pro teams for coaches.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 10:28 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:30 pm to
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College teams have to compete with pro teams for coaches.



No they don't.




They choose to, but they don't have to.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52739 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:31 pm to
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No they don't.




They choose to, but they don't have to.


Better coaching gives you a competitive advantage, both on the field and in recruiting.

Coaching is also another benefit college players receive.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:43 pm to
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You act like that’s a good thing


Nope it's just a reality and it's part of the reason for it's success.

No idea why so many wanna kill the greatest sport in the country.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22398 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:44 pm to
If players think they can get a better deal playing football between 18-20 than they do at Div 1 schools, they are free to pursue it.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52739 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:46 pm to
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No idea why so many wanna kill the greatest sport in the country.


When do you propose conferences/schools stop giving into player's demands?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54297 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:52 pm to
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With that, you've just destroyed CFB.

And I do not care one single bit.

I said EVERY athletic scholarship, too. No more. Get into a school on your academic merits, then try out for a team. Period.

Let someone with deep pockets and enough interest go the route of building a semi-pro developmental league. If it is viable, the pros will lap it up. If not, more athletes will get serious about education and the opportunity to play a sport while pursuing that education.
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:54 pm to
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If players think they can get a better deal playing football between 18-20 than they do at Div 1 schools, they are free to pursue it.



Where?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52739 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:55 pm to
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Where?


If being a student athlete is so terrible I guess they could just go work construction or at a grocery store or something.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14106 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:56 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54297 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 10:57 pm to
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The cry on here if they all actually did this would be hilarious.

Maybe from some, but I assure you 100% it wouldn't come from me.

If one good thing has come from the corona shite, it is that it helped me realize that sports really matter frick all to my life.

I can also assure that if every student athlete packed their bags and went home, the impact on them and their futures would be numerous times worse than most anyone on this board.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64684 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:01 pm to
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They were forced to do that without any other options. College athletes willingly enter into a contract and receive tuition plus books and tutors, furnished apartment with all bills paid, gourmet food, health care which includes physical, mental, dental, orthodontics, eye care and they get access to top notch exercise equipment plus world class physical trainers. Add all of that up and that's more than a lot of people that are working full time get paid.

We should just give them the cash value of all that and make them pay for it as they please. Don’t want to pay, don’t receive the service. I don’t think they would like that option, though
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10880 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:04 pm to
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They are demanding 50% of the revenue, surely you understand the difference


Perfectly reasonable demand considering the talent put on the field.

I wholeheartedly believe that all of us should be in favor of...

Wait...

What...

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PAC-12


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I'm sorry, I jumped to the conclusion that SEC players were doing this. Carry on.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54297 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:07 pm to
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They were forced to do that without any other options. College athletes willingly enter into a contract and receive tuition plus books and tutors, furnished apartment with all bills paid, gourmet food, health care which includes physical, mental, dental, orthodontics, eye care and they get access to top notch exercise equipment plus world class physical trainers. Add all of that up and that's more than a lot of people that are working full time get paid.

That's another option:

Make them employees. Give them a base salary comparable to other semipro athletes.

They will now be required to pay the full cost of their college tuition. The only thing provided for by their employer will be transportation to and from the games, lodging, and a reasonable portion of healthcare. They will be afforded access to training facilities. Just like any other college employee, they will be required to pay everything else. Housing will be based on the market rate. Their spot on the roster will be determined by performance (athletic and academic) only, and their standing will be reviewed at the end of each season.

Pay will be determined by a scale directly tied to roster position. Starters get the most, on down the depth chart gets less.
This post was edited on 8/2/20 at 11:08 pm
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
32482 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:09 pm to
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heir spot on the roster will be determined by performance (athletic and academic) only, and their standing will be reviewed at the end of each season.




So...like playing for Bama?



Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54297 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:10 pm to
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So...like playing for Bama?

Pretty much.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22398 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:12 pm to
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quote: If players think they can get a better deal playing football between 18-20 than they do at Div 1 schools, they are free to pursue it. Where?


Are you suggesting there isn’t another market that is demanding their services? If so, doesn’t sound like they have much to negotiate with..
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:17 pm to
Beautiful
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:23 pm to
That Coach's career is essentially over

The AD is in deep shite, he got a Coach that he has to pay that will never Recruit talented players, and his Players will never play hard for him

First of all, there was no reason for the HC of WSU to come out this early with unsolicited opinions

For all we know this thing might have died out on its own without 1 word from the HC

The HC did it to get some attaboys from the Alums but when he's on the Recruiting Trail he's gonna regret this big time

Now the NCAA is gonna step in and give them immediate eligibility, in fact the Conference might let them transfer in Conference

No reason for the HC to show his cards this early in the process, I know their AD is pissed to high hell over this
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52739 posts
Posted on 8/2/20 at 11:24 pm to
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That Coach's career is essentially over

The AD is in deep shite, he got a Coach that he has to pay that will never Recruit talented players, and his Players will never play hard for him



Depends on what other cosches do.
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