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re: BOOM! WSU's Response To Players That Support PAC-12 Player's Demands

Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:49 am to
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So what will ESPN show on Saturdays?


Whatever market research indicates will sell the most car insurance and beer. This usually means the better product...that is why the SEC is on every channel now and not the ACC because the product is better and sells more shite....and ESPN is in the shite selling bidness....
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:53 am to
You're living in your head on this one.

Way too much thought on something that will never pan out the way you imagine.


What gets more ratings?
XFL or college football?
Who has the better talent?
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:55 am to
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Getting some additional stiped money isn't what they want, they also dont want to get rid of the non profitable sports.

Most of what they want is simply unattainable.


At the end of the day what they want is what everyone wants..MONEY. They may have some lofty goals at the moment but as soon as they get the money, which, by the way, is the only thing they can get because lofty goals and ideals do not exist, they will suddenly forget those goals and ideals. They will eventually get the money.

I can remember when Freshman couldn't start in CFB...when the talk started about that this was going to change it was unthinkable. The same is true of Juniors getting drafted to the NFL....it was also unthinkable that a CFB would sit out a bowl game to protect their draft stock...happens every season now. Things are going to change...money makes it necessary and our society values money above all things. It is inevitable.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27837 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Desegregation hurt the Ivy League more than anything, it wasnt an overall talent drop.


What? Ivy Leaguers we among the 1st to desegregate.The decline started in the 60's when they de-emphacized the sport and stopped spring practice and athletc scholarships.

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No they wouldnt


If your argument is for frat ball they sure as heck would.

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Even if the top 200 players in the country went on strike or to a minor league, the current powers would still be the powers.


Sure but that wasn't my point.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46762 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:16 pm to
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Those that stroke the big checks that have created the Sport we all love, disagree with you 100%


Kill it with fire I say, because they didn't create anything. Libs like you are perfectly fine to try and kill college sports from the inside and I wouldn't mind seeing that because the schools will just start over on a shoe-string budget and we will still be here rooting for whoever is wearing the jersey of our alma mater. Like many of us who have been here way before ESPN got started.

This is the equivalent of UF students participating in the research of a new commercial or industrial endeavor and wanting to profit share. Do you think the students who participated in the Gatorade research were invited to share the wealth? You probably think they should.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:18 pm to
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I'm still watching UGA football no matter who the players are.

Do you really believe this, or, are you trying to "win the internet"?

You are very rare if what you say is true, very few UGA alums will support a UGA team with FCS or DII Talent, and that number goes to almost zero when you consider the Sidewalk Alums that never attended UGA

If there was this great market for lower talented CFB, then FCS colleges would all have 65K seat stadiums, they don't because the market just doesn't exist for lesser talented players vs other lesser talented college players

Why won't you just admit this?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46762 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:20 pm to
If it is all about talent, why are you even on a college football forum?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:23 pm to
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This is the equivalent of UF students participating in the research of a new commercial or industrial endeavor and wanting to profit share. Do you think the students who participated in the Gatorade research were invited to share the wealth? You probably think they should

Good thing that Gatorade was invented in the 50s or 60s, because if it had been invented in the 2010 to 2020 time frame --- then hell yes those students would want their cut, in fact they'd probably demand a small percentage of equity before doing any work to start with

In ain't Rocket Science, people simply want to be paid fairly, or as close to fair as can be achieved
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61671 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:25 pm to
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What? Ivy Leaguers we among the 1st to desegregate.The decline started in the 60's when they de-emphacized the sport and stopped spring practice and athletc scholarships.



So they werent competitive anymore.

If there was an overall talent drop, the same level of competitiveness would exist as today.

I never said anything about frat ball.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61671 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Absolutely kids would forego college if there was an alternative path to the NFL...in huge numbers. No, they won't do it to provide a path for others but they will do it for themselves and will do it in the not too distant future.


You dont even understand what's being said.

Kids wont forego college without an alternative path.

There wont be an alternative path if kids don't forego college to force the NFL into drafting shitty talent for a few seasons.

Do you not get this?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61671 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:30 pm to
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You are very rare if what you say is true, very few UGA alums will support a UGA team with FCS or DII Talent, and that number goes to almost zero when you consider the Sidewalk Alums that never attended UGA


Where are all the DI kids going in this scenario?

Mars?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46762 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:34 pm to
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Good thing that Gatorade was invented in the 50s or 60s, because if it had been invented in the 2010 to 2020 time frame --- then hell yes those students would want their cut, in fact they'd probably demand a small percentage of equity before doing any work to start with


UF research students participate in studies that make companies billions of dollars each year and some of them don't even get scholarships. You are cuckoo for cocoa puffs. You have no idea what you are talking about.


This is just one arm of UF research.

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This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 12:38 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:41 pm to
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If it is all about talent, why are you even on a college football forum?

Don't know why there are so many dumb asses on this msg board, seeing the best COLLEGE LEVEL talent play other 18 to 23 year olds is a different entertainment Product than watching the NFL, stop referring to the NFL

The P5 grosses from $6 billion to $7.6 billion depending on which source you trust, I only care about CFB as it relates to this isolated topic, the NFL is immaterial to what I am discussing

Why do you idiots keep bringing up the NFL, that won't work anymore, no one --- especially this generation of Athlete, is going to ignore $7.6 billion Generated among the P5 Colleges in FB & MBB to focus on the NFL years down the Road

They're gonna keep asking and demanding more fairness each Off-season, and don't get pissed either, what the players are doing is no different than what the Agents do for Saban and Dabo, something you readily accept is a necessary part of big time sports, but you don't accept it from the Players --- once again

I wonder why?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:44 pm to
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UF research students participate in studies that make companies billions of dollars each year and some of them don't even get scholarships. You are cuckoo for cocoa puffs. You have no idea what you are talking about.


This is just one arm of UF research.

Just because one group of idiots allow themselves to be taken advantage of financially, doesn't mean these Athletes have to join in their lunacy

That's a them issue, others don't have to accept that bullshite in their situation
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69015 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:44 pm to
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I wonder why?

Because we're all racist white supremacists. That's the answer you're looking for right?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69015 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:46 pm to
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That's a them issue

nah, that's a legal issue. They have no legal rights to royalties. Same thing happened at my firm. One of our IT guys created our billing software while working here. We own it, he got nothing for it, we profited. Also had a buddy create a medical product while in med school, using med school equipment. He tried to trademark said product, giving his med school nothing. He got his arse sued by his med school. Life comes at you fast.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61671 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:53 pm to
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Don't know why there are so many dumb asses on this msg board


I only see the one.

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They're gonna keep asking and demanding more fairness each Off-season


They have no leverage.

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what the players are doing is no different than what the Agents do for Saban and Dabo, something you readily accept is a necessary part of big time sports, but you don't accept it from the Players --- once again


Actually it is, Dabo and Saban can go to the NFL or another college team will pay them more.

No college team can give these players what they're demanding and they cant go to the NFL.

An alternative league is no benefit to anyone except the players and they're the one group with no money to start a league.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:53 pm to
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I wonder why?


Young people are stupid.
They lack experience, maturity, and point of view.

The only reason 18-22 year olds have value is because they are limited to competing against 18-22 year olds.

You add a 24 year old to the mix and it puts Joe Burrow in the record books as an elite heisman winner.

If the value as a player expires and is continually replenished with new plebes each season.... how much value is there, really?

College football makes college football work. So long as UGA beats Auburn and Auburn occasionally beats Bama, then college football will continue on unimpeded (with or without a professional minor league)
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61671 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:58 pm to
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College football makes college football work. So long as UGA beats Auburn and Auburn occasionally beats Bama, then college football will continue on unimpeded (with or without a professional minor league)


And even if some minor league actually formed, you'd still have guys like Aaron Murray holding roster spots.

Very few 18 year olds can beat someone like that out.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
46762 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:59 pm to
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Good thing that Gatorade was invented in the 50s or 60s, because if it had been invented in the 2010 to 2020 time frame --- then hell yes those students would want their cut, in fact they'd probably demand a small percentage of equity before doing any work to start with


So you went from, "It's a good thing they didn't try that now!"


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Just because one group of idiots allow themselves to be taken advantage of financially, doesn't mean these Athletes have to join in their lunacy

That's a them issue, others don't have to accept that bullshite in their situation


To the old, "I don't know why these crazy kids choose to work for free".



Let me tell you something Poindexter and this will be the best advice you ever get. You and your fricking liberal friends have a good thing going with these athletic scholarship and you are going to frick it up.

Just remember this when you are wondering what happened. Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. Oink oink motherfricker.
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