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Posted on 11/7/12 at 8:56 pm to heartbreakTiger
I believe Saban is a better coach, as in Saban would beat Bear in a game, but Bear will never be surpassed as a legend.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:01 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
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Are you always pissed off? You seem like you're always pissed off.
Not at all, I'm actually hardly ever angry.
Even with the election results last night - I'm more saddened for our direction than I am angered.
I guess my sense of humor or personality doesn't translate well in text.
This post was edited on 11/7/12 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:11 pm to stat19
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Not at all, I'm actually hardly ever angry.
Even with the election results last night - I'm more saddened for our direction than I am angered.
I guess my sense of humor or personality doesn't translate well in text.
Now that I know, I'll read your posts differently.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:13 pm to mule74
Strictly in terms of credentials and awards, Saban is well on his way to being as decorated of a head coach as the Bear.
This post was edited on 11/7/12 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 11/7/12 at 9:16 pm to FleshEatingSalsa
My wife pokes me all the time - telling me to be a bit less blunt or dry.
This post was edited on 11/7/12 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 11/7/12 at 11:20 pm to BAMAisDIESEL09
I mean, you can look at the numbers. If Saban stays at Bama for another 8 years or so and has success similar to his last 5 seasons, then he may get there. Nick Saban is Bear Bryant without the mysticism. Saban is not yet revered by the Alabama community. Is he the best CFB coach of the modern era? Yes, I think so. But he's no Bear, not yet anyways. I don't think it's even close, maybe not even possible for someone to have a larger-than-life persona like PBB.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 11:27 pm to WG_Dawg
WG is right - Bryant was the best coach in the business but he was also a symbol for a lot of Alabamians that transcended football.
Plus, Bear was an Alabama player as well.
Bear's legacy in Alabama is comprised of a lot more than wins and losses and championships.
Plus, Bear was an Alabama player as well.
Bear's legacy in Alabama is comprised of a lot more than wins and losses and championships.
Posted on 11/7/12 at 11:49 pm to mule74
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Is it possible for any man to pass Bryant in Bama lore?
Sure, lore is dictated by the story tellers. In accomplishment, Coach Bryant had 13 CC's and 6 NC's at UA, Coach Saban (at this point) 2 NC's and 1 CC at UA. A better question might be Saban surpassing Bryant in SEC history or CFB history. In accomplishment no...in lore? Sure, why not.
Posted on 11/8/12 at 12:03 am to mule74
IMO, if Saban win another national title, he should be ranked ahead of The Bear. There was not much, if any, parity back when Bear coached. Also no scholly limits. Bear could tell recruits to come to Bama and they will be on TV, more than if they went to a lesser known program.
Posted on 11/8/12 at 12:27 am to JDM1992
Do you go to UA?
Posted on 11/8/12 at 4:06 am to WG_Dawg
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Bear was that state's frickin savior, and for many people the ONLY thing to take pride in.
No matter how many titles Saban wins, the bear wasn't just a great coach he was transcendent.
I agree with this. Bear Bryant was the first and set the bar. Saban basically restored the order that Bryant created. I think the fact that Nick Saban is not cast in Bear Bryants shadow, but has created his own is enough of a statement.
Posted on 11/8/12 at 5:56 am to mule74
3 out of 4 would likely put Saban at the helm during the best 5 year period (2008-2012) in Alabama history.
He still wouldn't surpass the bear, and I don't think he will. Primarily because he just doesn't have the time.
He still wouldn't surpass the bear, and I don't think he will. Primarily because he just doesn't have the time.
Posted on 11/8/12 at 6:32 am to JDM1992
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This is a prime example of what we Communication majors call "butthurt rhetoric"
I didn't realize you had to major in Communications to work at Sonic?
Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:00 am to mule74
I've gotten to where I compare Coaches in eras.Sixties through the eighties,maybe.And so on.I think Saban should just be compared to his contemporaries such as Miles,Meyer,Stoops,etc.
He is definitely the face of Bama football in this generation.Most fans 30 or under may not give a shite about what Bear Bryant accomplished.
He is definitely the face of Bama football in this generation.Most fans 30 or under may not give a shite about what Bear Bryant accomplished.
Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:11 am to mule74
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How far is Saban from surpassing the Bear?
About 12".
Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:24 am to mule74
He needs to get shite faced drunk on a daily basis 
Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:27 am to mule74
If Saban wins 6 NC and retires here then he will be equal to Bryant. Like most famous people they tend to grow in power after their death. Well, except Joe Paterno. 
Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:33 am to mule74
The story of "Bear" Bryant is more poetic that that of Saban.
He actually played for an Alabama championship team. He left, had some success, then came back to Alabama because "Mama called".
He won titles with white kids while the rest of the nation was integrating their squads. He then had more success after integration. All the time remaining a source of pride for a section of the country that was pretty much in the shitter in the eyes of everyone.
Also, he became the "winningest coach in history" while at Alabama. He was pretty much the identity of the program for over two decades and I don't think that can be replicated.
Saban, while a great coach, still has this feeling of a hired gun. He's loved, and I'm sure he likes being here, but he'll never be "one of ours".
He actually played for an Alabama championship team. He left, had some success, then came back to Alabama because "Mama called".
He won titles with white kids while the rest of the nation was integrating their squads. He then had more success after integration. All the time remaining a source of pride for a section of the country that was pretty much in the shitter in the eyes of everyone.
Also, he became the "winningest coach in history" while at Alabama. He was pretty much the identity of the program for over two decades and I don't think that can be replicated.
Saban, while a great coach, still has this feeling of a hired gun. He's loved, and I'm sure he likes being here, but he'll never be "one of ours".
Posted on 11/8/12 at 7:55 am to CrimsonCoast
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CrimsonCoast
Man, you summed it up great.
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