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re: Black Mizzou players will strike until Tom Wolfe resigns
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:43 pm to sullivanct19a
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:43 pm to sullivanct19a
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Football was a means to an end right? So you used the University of Florida to get what you wanted. So, what in the holy freaking he** are you complaining about? I've never encountered a former UF athlete that has complained as much as you. It's my university too. I have two degrees from UF. Stop embarrassing all of us. Universities have no risk? Are you aware of how few athletic departments operate with a profit? Why is that? Why are the expenses so high? To take care of whiney people like you. In 2012 they published some expenses from UF's trip to the Sugar Bowl. Over $2.4 million to take 100 players to NO for a less than a week. UF lost over half a million dollars on that trip so they could make sure the players were taken care of. They could turn a profit if the athletes were lodged and fed according to what regular people get.
How many former football players do you know? You've never encountered one because you don't know any. Why not talk to a few actual people who play or played at your University. Oh, you would think they are complaining like Coach Spurrier. Spurrier btw, already explained everything I already mentioned but your dumb arse think it's whining?
Do you know how UF generates money from athletics? When I went to UF, FOOTBALL paid the bills for EVERY other sport at UF, including basketball. Today, football still pays the bills for 95% of all UF sports. Without football, most of these other sports would be dead. Football rules the roost. UF football returns millions of dollars back to the university each year. It has ALWAYS turned a profit in at least the last 35 years.
Please get your facts straight. It did not cost $2.4 million to take 100 kids to the Sugar Bowl. A big part of that cost you're quoting was close to a million dollars paid to the coaches. Who the hell do you think they made sure was well taken care of? Why don't you complain about the coaches? You can take Urban Meyer's salary and pay the entire team 2 fold but hell no, you think they complain too much and don't deserve it.
For your information, UF paid up front to go to the Sugar Bowl. The SEC on the back end gave the school $20 million in return. The athletes were lodged and fed like normal people. Where the hell do you think they stayed? or ate? You are very deluded dude.
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:47 pm to trevo_410
the ESPN coverage on this is classic drive-by, meaning they don't want to cover it, but have to
so they print the text, but the video playing above it has nothing to do with the story of the player saying half the team did not support the boycott
so they print the text, but the video playing above it has nothing to do with the story of the player saying half the team did not support the boycott
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:49 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
you are pathetic
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:51 pm to semotruman
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No, the hunger strike guy, Jonathan Butler, is a grad student and activist in training. IMO, also a narcissist. This hunger strike is an attention ploy, and it's working.
I consider the nature of his actions indicative of mental illness but I get your point.
I'd also say he a capitalist, and using the SJW crowd and fellow black students to help him manufacture a lot of drama. The fact there are no pictures of the swastika, given the universal presence of smart phones on campus is a very bad sign here. This guy is in marketing:
Jonathan L. Butler
Founder and CXO at Moyo Wazi, LLC
Columbia, MissouriMarketing and Advertising
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I suspect there's going to be a lot of digging and fact-finding into all of the stuff he lists on that page. I'm starting to think this guy is a fraud. If evidence of that emerges, there are going to be a lot of really angry people.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:51 pm to Rex
"Heather" posting on #ConcernedStudent1950 and #Mizzouhungerstrike is either an expert level troll or ... in her own special orbit in outer space. LOL
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:52 pm to sullivanct19a
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Get him some help
Get him the hell out of the way. If, and, if, he has mental issues, then he needs to be handled in that way. He sound like an attention whore who wants to be catered to.
He is trying to leverage a times past issue to further his agenda.
frick him and all his supporters.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:56 pm to MrLarson
Aren't the extents of his actions indicative of mental illness though?
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:05 pm to sullivanct19a
here's the guy charged with burning black churches in Missouri only days ago
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:06 pm to sullivanct19a
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Maybe the problem is football players. You know who I don't hear complaining? The UF gymnastics team and softball team. I also don't read about them getting arrested, being accused of rape etc. In the past three years those two teams alone have 5 national titles. Perhaps it's time we stop caring so much about football and pay more attention to those that are achieving excellence without quitting, complaining, or making the police blotter.
There you go again with the complaining bullshite.
Maybe you should look up the Gymnast arrested for running a stolen theft ring and illegal guns. Or the gym coach with ties to UF involved in child pornography? How about baseball players arrests, track arrests, swimmers and divers, basketball players.
You know why you don't hear about a female UF athlete using stolen credit cards a few months ago? Nobody gives a shite. Football players make up the majority of scholarships, so you should expect a higher overall number. We also know more about football players the moment they sign LOI.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:08 pm to sullivanct19a
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Aren't the extents of his actions indicative of mental illness though?
I just don't lick the dew off their lilly like you do.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:08 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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you are pathetic
Read between the lines...
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:10 pm to trevo_410
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I guess the team is not all in agreement over this...
espn
Of course, some guys just want to play football. Its not like this is shocking with this many people that not everybody would agree with it
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:12 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
Doesn't bother me. You're still pathetic. I feel sorry for you.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:16 pm to sullivanct19a
It's a sad day in American society when we can no longer appreciate the brilliant hijinks of drawing a swastika on a bathroom wall with human feces.
My first thoughts were: how drunk do you have to be to handle your own doo? Do you have to be even drunker if it isn't your own doo? Didn't the offender get a strong dose of "jokes on me I now have poopy hands"?
The thought police now control speech in a place where you can also find numbers to call for a good time.
My first thoughts were: how drunk do you have to be to handle your own doo? Do you have to be even drunker if it isn't your own doo? Didn't the offender get a strong dose of "jokes on me I now have poopy hands"?
The thought police now control speech in a place where you can also find numbers to call for a good time.
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:23 pm to YouDontKnowBro
edited: sarcasm missed the point
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:35 pm to GatorNation4Lyfe
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black church burning
By a black dude.
:racism:
#amirite
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:43 pm to the808bass
I never have understood the whole "hunger strike" concept.
If anybody ever protested something I did by hunger striking I would tell them to knock themselves out.
If anybody ever protested something I did by hunger striking I would tell them to knock themselves out.
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:53 pm to gthog61
They know their white liberal overlords in the media will cover for them.
They could "hunger strike" for like four hours and the media will call it seven days.
They could "hunger strike" for like four hours and the media will call it seven days.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 1:46 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
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GatorNation4Lyfe
Spurrier has never whined like you.
Let's not pretend athletes are hurting. Take a look at the vehicles being driven. Even easier, tally up the tattoos you see. They aren't cheap. I've also discussed this with others. In fact, two guys - both on national title teams - mentioned finding money in pants pockets after a game. Things are done to push some money around. By the way, neither of these guys complained one bit.
Whether I've known 1, 5, or 100 football players and former athletes, you are by far the biggest complainer. I can't even find ranting and whining like yours from people that got booted from UF, when I search on the internet. The only person that comes close is that sniveling little twit from UConn's basketball team that tried to tell everyone he was going hungry every night. So, congrats on that one. You're in esteemed company.
The 2012 Sugar Bowl had a payout of 1.8 mill. UF allocated an extra 550,000 to pay for that trip. The rest of the BCS game money is divided up 15 ways but if we can't count the coaching bonuses, well, we can't count the BCS bowl money either, right? Both are tied to the BCS. That's your logic, stand by it if you wish.
Lodging alone was 320,000 for that trip of five days. By the way they stayed at the Riverfront Hilton. Is that where all of the normal people go? 60k per day - more than most yearly salaries, just for lodging. Even if you divide that by 300 people that's 200 per day, just for lodging. Is that what all of us 'normies' are typically paying at a hotel?
Everyone realizes football brings in a ton of money but it also eats up a ton of money. Did you ever ask the trainers how much it costs to tape everyone's ankles each day? I have. It's not just pre-wrap and cloth tape. To keep your princess ankles healthy, it's also the conform or cohesive or whatever that stuff is called. A trainer showed me what they do and the materials used - we were discussing how long it takes and how quick they get at doing it. It was like $20 or so per person but you know there's bulk discount so go with $10. Do the math on that for an entire team. You get to $1000 per day really fast. Such expenses are not unique to football but they are more common. How much do you think an Eleiko barbell costs? They're about $900. Those and similar quality pieces are all over weight rooms.
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In 2014, athletic expenses per athlete: median $116,000, so 50% of the programs paid more than that and UF is certainly going to be in the top 50%; but it costs a lot more equip a football player than a tennis player (grad students in physics, medicine, etc, that help bring in millions each year in research funding are not getting 116,000 dedicated to the performance of their duties, I assure you). So, it takes the equivalent of about two full time jobs, or more, to cover the expenses an athletic department pays for just one athlete. I'm sure these are numbers you've never bothered to consider.
Ticket sales, donations, merchandise etc are about 3x what is received through things like BCS money distribution.
75% of these revenues then are coming from the fans. Did a lack of BCS game appearance (and BCS game money) get Muschamp fired or was it pressure from fans and boosters? You and I both know it was fans and boosters. When you saw people walking around with UF t-shirts and stuff, you didn't stop and think that was helping to cover your scholarship I'm sure. Or, the fact that those people were going to buy that shirt despite likely never knowing who you were or that you existed. Maybe you felt you were THE reason they purchased it.
Considering UF is one of very few programs turning a profit each year, and where 75% of the money comes from the fan base, maybe you should be checking your 'deluded athlete privilege'.
You want to keep whining, you go cheer for FSU. The clown school doesn't get revenue from their 12 fans. They get subsidies. But at UF, YOUR bills were paid by a fantastic group of fans and alumni and a great athletic director that hasn't given in to calls to have water falls and needless garbage all over the place. The football team could fall flat on its face and go 0-10-1 again and fan support would pay all the bills - for all the sports. TV and BCS money won't.
I'm not making the argument that everything is awesome for student athletes but given the economics of it all, don't think I or any other fan is likely to accept your sniveling and complaining. Like I said, I've never heard a Gator athlete complain like you.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:07 am to MrLarson
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I just don't lick the dew off their lilly like you do.
I want the guy to get help so he doesn't keep doing this (assuming he' a fraud). It's not about him, it's about others. I guess the second and third order effects didn't register.
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