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re: Black athletes file complaint with DoE alleging their civil rights are being violated

Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by Ole Boy
Member since Dec 2018
855 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 12:58 pm to
Sounds great make athletes employees and cut all sports that don't turn a profit.
Posted by ChromaticTide
Member since Dec 2021
892 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:00 pm to
Amazing how quickly we've gone from black people calling us racist for not allowing them on the team to black people calling us racist because they're not being paid millions of dollars to play on the team. I see a common thread here, and it's a microcosm for what's happening to our country as a whole
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 1:03 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:05 pm to
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Sounds great make athletes employees and cut all sports that don't turn a profit

To me, this is the most significant potential change.

If athletes are employees, paid as employees, and receive benefits as employees, how can most institutions afford that?

You could have a six-year grad student graduate and be eligible for state retirement in just a few years.
Posted by aTm boy
Member since Sep 2020
4456 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:06 pm to
Simple solution, come to A&M where they are no caps
Posted by VolMarine1371
Member since Jun 2021
1959 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:06 pm to
I am all for treating these kids as actual state employees. Let them find out what it‘a like to manage your own bills. Have them pay 100% of tuition and room and board along with melas also. Since college’s have to have insurance on the players for sports have the athlete that’s an employee have to pay for there medical bills also like us normal everyday non athletes that have real jobs. Then make them file a W-2 every year as well. Also make sure these kids are paid on a weakly it by weakly schedule. I don’t get paid till I start performing for my work so make it to where these kids have to pay there own admissions up front and then pay for reimbursement once’s “hired”. Right now the NIL allows other business to give kids money for there ability and not the schools. Orginally everyone wanted the athletes be Abel to be paid and that has happened and now it’s not good enough. Black athletes are getting paid if they are good. What’s Bryce Young NIL worth. Or what about Nico Iamaleava that’s supposedly signed an NIL deal before stepping foot on campus. I don’t know about everyone else, but I don’t like spending my money on a product that’s not productive or it doesn’t have no benefits to myself or my family.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:15 pm to
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Have them pay 100% of tuition and room and board along with melas also. Since college’s have to have insurance on the players for sports have the athlete that’s an employee have to pay for there medical bills also like us normal everyday non athletes that have real jobs.

That's actually a pretty interesting question.

If something like that were to happen, would there no longer be scholarships? Would they be required to have health insurance if they get injured?

Aside from the NIL guys making millions, how much of a salary would they have to pay the regular guys on the team so that they could afford all of that?
Posted by VolMarine1371
Member since Jun 2021
1959 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:15 pm to
At my employer they provide benefits at a cost to every employee. Make them pay premiums and meet deductible’s like the rest of us when we receive medical care. Make them file W-2 every year and pay for 100% of there tuition and everything that comes along with it. Do away with scholarship and stipend’s. On official travel duties make them file for reimbursement for meals and hotels once there return home. Also if employees are not performing then they should be able to be “fired”. In a state like Tennessee employee’s can be fired with or without cause. It’s an at will employment state meaning you can be let go or quite without notice. So if they want to open this box then the schools need to change there business model on how they do business.
Posted by MedDawg
Member since Dec 2009
4566 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:18 pm to
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You could have a six-year grad student graduate and be eligible for state retirement in just a few years.


Why not fight against the eligibility limits, too? If a kid wants to go to college and play football for 15 years, why shouldn't he be able to?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83309 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:21 pm to
What's the disparate impact?

Please tell me it's because black athletes represent a disproportionately high % of star athletes - thus the cap limits their comp more than white counterparts because their ceilings are higher

Would be absolutely hilarious
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31085 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:25 pm to
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Last month, the NCPA filed an unfair labor practice charge against the NCAA, Pac-12, UCLA and USC supporting an initiative that players get employee status.
Give 'em employee status and see how they like that shite.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
129967 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:27 pm to
Well yeah, those white cornerbacks are making bank, so why shouldn't the rest.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Why not fight against the eligibility limits, too? If a kid wants to go to college and play football for 15 years, why shouldn't he be able to?

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
19807 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:30 pm to
Here's the fastest guy this year in my sport. I don't think he's making less than other swimmers
Posted by Wipe Out
Member since Mar 2022
128 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:35 pm to
Headline should read: More bullshite Whining From Perpetual Victims.

frick them. I want it to be mandatory that all college football and basketball teams must match the racial makeup of the nation. No more than 1% difference based on race.



Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
3071 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:41 pm to
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NCAA demographics show that 20% of all Division I athletes are Black. Approximately 56% are white.


That's because of men/women golf, m/w swimming, m/w volleyball, etc.

White students should file a complaint/suit that black student athletes make up 88% of football and 92% of basketball.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:44 pm to
White people will never speak out about the blatant racism that effects them every day.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
20885 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 1:50 pm to
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lack athletes file complaint with DoE



Well, that's their first mistake. Filing with the Department of Energy rather than the Department of Education probably won't get them anywhere.

DOE vs DoEd

quote:

Its official abbreviation is "ED" ("DoE" refers to the United States Department of Energy) and is also often abbreviated informally as "DoEd".
Posted by solus
Member since Dec 2019
3568 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 2:02 pm to
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So only black athletes are capped?


Maybe you folks should Google disparate impact.. so you would stop asking this stupid question.

Not saying I agree with this lawsuit or anything, I don't even really follow the NIL or other paying stuff..but I kind of see where they are coming from just because I understand how disparate impact can rear it's head
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
4779 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 2:31 pm to
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Google disparate impact.. so you would stop asking this stupid question.


“Disparate impact in United States labor law refers to practices in employment, housing, and other areas that adversely affect one group of people of a protected characteristic more than another, even though rules applied by employers or landlords are formally neutral. Wikipedia”

Again, why is it that only black athletes would be harmed by a “cap”?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32279 posts
Posted on 3/22/22 at 2:41 pm to
And it's the lawyers' faults. They are most likely the ones fanning the flames.
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