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re: Birmingham writer says to "get high" on Petrino and his Hogs

Posted on 7/24/11 at 11:55 am to
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
42854 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 11:55 am to
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You have to believe that the run game and passing game will suffer because of the loss of both tackles.
Bama and LSU are going to give them trouble due to D-line and DB play.



This would probably be a huge problem if they were the first two games of the season instead of 4th and 12th.
Posted by trex1230
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2010
1318 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 12:16 pm to
I think Arky wins the West and is a National Title Contender. Anyone else (not pig) agree with me? Did I mention how much hate Petrino?

This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Rex Manning
San Francisco 49ers Fan
Member since Jul 2011
1966 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 12:45 pm to
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I think Arky wins the West and is a National Title Contender. Anyone else (not pig) agree with me? Did Imention how much hate Petrino?



They definitely can but some of their fans in this thread are a little
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:01 pm to
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instead of 4th

Yep. Exactly.
Missouri State, New Mexico and Troy will be no where near as good as Bama's D will be this season. That is why many believe that they will win the west.
DJ Williams (probably the best TE in the country last season)and Love were both very good. If Wilson was better than Mallet, using Arky philosophy, he would have started. Afterall, Petrino didn't like all the off the field issues mallet was being accused of.

By game 12, LSU will either be really good both offensively and defensively or be in the crapper due to the 3 losses (2 OOC). If it comes down to LSU or Arky for the chance to play in the SECCG, I would have to believe that LSUs redshirt sophs and all of those big and fast D-lineman will give the run and pass game a huge problem.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:17 pm to
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Bama will beat Arkansas by at least 10. you can take that to the bank.


I think Bama does beat Arkansas, but by no more than a TD.


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Sadly, I agree. Our fans are greatly underestimating the difficulty of our schedule as well as the loss of Peterson, Sheppard, an Nevis.


Don't forget Jasper, Ridley, and Tolliver too. No question LSU has some talented players waiting in the wings, but I don't think anyone can expect them to produce like those players before them right off the bat.


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You're not a homer though, right?


I am a homer, but it's not only homers that are picking Arkansas to win the west.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:30 pm to
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1) Mad Men is my favorite show.


me too!

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2) I agree with you that the pigs win the West (it pains me to say so). I HATE Petrino but he is awesome. For those who doubt Tyler Wilson, just look at the career of Stefan Lefors. Mallett did NOT play well in the clutch last year. Single handedly lost to Bama, blew the comeback against Ohio St, and he did not play well against LSU. Arky won due to Knile Davis and their defense in the 2nd half.


post more!


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3) Miss St. will NOT go 6-2 in the SEC. UF will not go 1-7. That fat douche Charlie Weis is the most important hire in the SEC thi year. I will bet you $200 that you are wrong on BOTH of those. Deal?


UF has a tough schedule in a transition year with a first-year head coach after coming off a season where they went 7-5. I admit my prediction for them is on the pessimistic side, but I don't see them being any better than a .500 team.

I like how Relf has gotten better and better as a QB. He started out really raw, but he's really becoming more of a "QB" instead of big motherfricker who takes the snap and runs options mostly. MSU has some good skill players around him, and I like his experience and Mullen's offensive scheme over what I see Bama and LSU's offenses doing this season. MSU gets both Bama and LSU at home btw.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Rex Manning
San Francisco 49ers Fan
Member since Jul 2011
1966 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:31 pm to
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I am a homer,


Glad we finally got that out of the way

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but it's not only homers that are picking Arkansas to win the west.


Very few are. While I agree Arkansas COULD win the West, you're not a program that can expect to win the West like you and a number of other Arkansas fans at least in this thread seem to be doing.

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but I don't think anyone can expect them to produce like those players before them right off the bat.


Why not? You're doing that with Wilson, aren't you? What about all those O-Linemen?

Teams lose players every year. We've proven that we can re-load and while we do lose a number of major contributors, we have a lot of players who played last year and played very well that are stepping into those roles. Arkansas has no proven track record of being able to do this.

Also, it's important to point out that LSU has more returning starters than Arkansas (16 to 13). So who is going out on more of a limb here?
Posted by FleaMarketBill
Mayor of Wizard Township
Member since Apr 2010
12841 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:32 pm to
Going out on a limb? Why are you guys arguing in trees?
Posted by Rex Manning
San Francisco 49ers Fan
Member since Jul 2011
1966 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:34 pm to
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FleaMarketBill


I FINALLY GOT MY SIG!
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79732 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:39 pm to
Im an lsu fan. I belive we win the west, but it wont be because we are undefeated. Hogs are delusional if you think ur going 12-0 or anywbere close to that.

Yall just automatically think you are going to beat out bama or lsu every year? Not to mention playing tough sec east teams this season.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:39 pm to
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You have to believe that the run game and passing game will suffer because of the loss of both tackles.


You don't have to believe that if you believe Brey Cook will be where the coaches want him to be come the 4th game of the season. Cook looks like a 2nd year lineman, and he's been here since January so by the time the 4th game rolls around he should be playing like a 2nd year lineman. We have other options with some more experienced players, but I really think Cook takes the starting job by the second game.

Here's a nice little write up on Brey that has me optimistic:

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Cook is a big, strong, wide body player with excellent balance, agility and playing strength; is a dominant force as a run and pass blocker. Possesses the size and athleticism for the offensive tackle position at the major level of competition.

Displays good flexibility and explosion coming out of a two point stance; is able to get a good fit and pad level despite his height and the fact he works from a two point stance. His initial quickness and technique allow him to get movement off the line of scrimmage when drive blocking; can shock a defender and establish immediate movement off the line; able to roll his hips with good base and leg drive.

This guy is an aggressive, tough finisher, one who plays to the whistle while looking for a second block downfield. Demonstrates the foot quickness to gain leverage vs. shaded down lineman; plays on his feet well in space with the capability of getting a hat on 2nd level defenders.

We see a player with advanced techniques in pass protection; his flexibility and balance serve him well; displays good bend, can slide and play flat footed. Has a good feel for the deep set point vs. quick edge rushers. His arm length and hand quickness are a plus; demonstrates good initial punch and location; works to keep his body clean with good extension while working to reset, getting his hands back inside the frame. His athleticism, playing strength and finishing attitude strongly indicate a player capable of making all the necessary blocks at the next level of play. If not an immediate starter, Cook could very well see early playing time as his collegiate career begins.


Under Armor All American website write up on Brey Cook
Posted by FleaMarketBill
Mayor of Wizard Township
Member since Apr 2010
12841 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:41 pm to
You are now a proper resident of this internet forum. When I got my sig the hog fans had a week long celebration. Steak, women, and alcohol for a solid week. You need to get together with your swamp buddies. Get with HBT if you don't want to remember who you are for the next week.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 1:55 pm to
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Why not? You're doing that with Wilson, aren't you?


Wilson is a 4th year QB, and has had in game experience each of the last 3 seasons. He was the 1st string QB each of the past two Springs when Mallett was injured. He's not a typical first year starting QB. He came in with our group of senior wide receivers, and as he showed in the Auburn game, he has a great rapport with them already.

Petrino will tailor the offense to his strengths, and he brings some mobility and better ability to throw on the run than Mallett had.


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Arkansas has no proven track record of being able to do this.


That's because this IS Petrino's "senior" team. We will be reloading next season, not this one.

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Also, it's important to point out that LSU has more returning starters than Arkansas (16 to 13)


You have 16 starters that lost to Arky last season, congrats.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 2:21 pm to
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You don't have to believe that if you believe Brey Cook will be where the coaches want him to be come the 4th game of the season. Cook looks like a 2nd year lineman, and he's been here since January so by the time the 4th game rolls around he should be playing like a 2nd year lineman

Look using that philosophy, let me introduce you to The Freak.

On the Hoof: Massive shoulders and chest with long, muscular arms and thick powerbase. His physique is similar to Ohio State star Cameron Heyward.
Needs Improvement: Plays with reckless abandon. Needs to be in control and play assignment football. Johnson will need to improve his technique, and use the spin and swim move less because those tactics leave him vulnerable to being injured.
Most Impressive: Is definitely a pass-rushing threat from the interior defensive line position. He is very quick off the ball and has the ability to blow up plays in the backfield. His body structure for a defensive tackle is a 10 and he could hold more weight and muscle mass on his frame. His overall athleticism will allow him to play strongside defensive end in a pinch.
Conclusion: His body type is very rare and if he shows off excellent pass-rushing ability in practice the coaches will give him a chance early. Has potential to be an All-American.

Also, he has been here since January.
We all have them on our team, plugging in a true freshmen against a Bama D-line and all that Smith will throw at him, if he plays, will be a tall order for any young O-Lineman.
With that said a D-lineman playing in spots can be more of an advantage by game 12 IMO.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29402 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 2:29 pm to
I have Arkansas losing to Bama anyway. After that, I don't see any defense that will be able to stop our offense. Our o-linemen are more athletic as an overall unit than last year's, just less experienced. By the 12th game, it will be hitting on all cylinders barring injuries and LSU's D will get what they got last year - a heavy dose of Knile and some big plays through the air.
Posted by lob1284
Houma by birth
Member since Mar 2006
4936 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 2:44 pm to
Other fans may be slightly overstating the players LSU is losing from last years team. It wasn't too long ago when we won a national title after losing 4 first round picks to one draft. Sheppard's leadership will be the toughest loss. Even those big players that have moved on have been pretty vocal about LSU being a better team this year, they know what waits in the wings better than anyone.
Posted by FleaMarketBill
Mayor of Wizard Township
Member since Apr 2010
12841 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 3:07 pm to
I wont argue with you on that, but the players that left this year, to a man, have stated that this Razorback team will be much better than last years. LSU and Arkansas arguing during the preseason doesn't make sense. So many things can happen throughout the season. We will be much different in the 12th game than we were in 1st for better or worse.
Posted by Jaketigger
Baton Rouge Area
Member since Feb 2008
5064 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 3:12 pm to
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Our o-linemen are more athletic as an overall unit than last year's, just less experienced. By the 12th game, it will be hitting on all cylinders barring injuries and LSU's D will get what they got last year - a heavy dose of Knile and some big plays through the air.


2010 was a close game and came down to simple mistakes and one team making the most of its opportunities as it has for the last 10 years.
Those games are ALWAYS close. I do not expect anything different this year.
FWIW - We all know that NO TEAM will win in the SEC just running the ball... Play Action pass is the key to the Arky offense ticking. I will believe that it will be no different this year. Lets see how they match-up closer to actual game time. Who has the most to lose / gain.
I will be there yelling for the Tigers regardless.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 3:28 pm
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7602 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 3:52 pm to
If our OL does struggle then we can throw some quick screens to adams and wright or a long ball to childs...im just glad we have WRs that can help out under BP
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31876 posts
Posted on 7/24/11 at 4:06 pm to
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Very few are. While I agree Arkansas COULD win the West, you're not a program that can expect to win the West like you and a number of other Arkansas fans at least in this thread seem to be doing.

Arkansas won't just win the west and take the BCSNCG by storm, they'll threepeat. After all, Petrino is a man on a mission.
This post was edited on 7/24/11 at 4:07 pm
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