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re: Bill Snyder or Mike Leach

Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:20 am to
Posted by tOGLettuce
Out Yonder
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:20 am to
Snyder stayed on his vessel and conquered his seas.

Leach built three different pirate ships and looted a lot more booty, swinging his sword.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:22 am to
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Snyder stayed on his vessel and conquered his seas. Leach built three different pirate ships and looted a lot more booty, swinging his sword.

Yeah, but K-State was the mother fricking Kraken of all bad programs lol.
Posted by MizzouTrue
Member since Jun 2016
4791 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:17 am to
I respect Baylor and A&M for beating both of Snyder’s best teams

This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by tOGLettuce
Out Yonder
Member since Aug 2015
1155 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:30 am to
Can’t argue. Just wish we had 5-6 years of more.

People will come, Ray. Oh people will come.
Posted by BigHorn69
Member since Nov 2024
250 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:14 am to
Look Leach was an amazing coach and innovator for this sport, and did amazing things at 3 shitty schools. He would have made MSU a terror RIP , and its a shame non of the big leagues gave him his shot in his prime

That said its Snyder and its not even close. Beyond what other posters have mentioned, Snyder won a good amount of big time games. He took out OU and Texas multiple times in prime Stoops/Brown years. And he did it with spare parts from a fricking cave.

Texas fans called him the purple wizard, and it took *years* of Snyder not being the coach to live down the PTSD we had from late november games in Manhattan in ways that Leach simply did not invoke.

Synder was probably the closest we've seen to a second Saban, he just decided to stay at Kansas fricking State and coach in hard mode to make it possible for everyone else to even compete.

Here's the Synder Coaching tree , do you see who's under here ? Bob Stoops and Mike Leach


This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by BurgTiger
Member since Feb 2014
3292 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:18 am to
Snyder would fail today.

His players would be picked off every year after he developed them.

But the answer to your question is Snyder. He is the greatest program builder of all time. He did it twice at perhaps the hardest place in the country to do it.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Member since Oct 2023
7762 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:33 am to
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Snyder would fail today. His players would be picked off every year after he developed them.

Three letters.

NIL.

Not that Snyder would have liked the concept.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
24703 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:34 am to
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BigHorn69

Solid post.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
7644 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:39 am to
No coach ever worked more miracles than Bill Snyder. There should be a moive or some shite.

Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
7644 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:44 am to
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Snyder would fail today.



Snyder was the junior college king and made a career out of getting first-year JUCOS ready to play, so imagine what he could have done in the portal era.

In other words, I respectfully disagree.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26653 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:46 am to
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This is the part that makes him one of the best ever.

He retires, watches his successor frick up everything he built in just 3 years, so he gets out of the recliner at age 70 and builds it all back up again. Wins the conference title in year 4 of the second stint.

The man was one of the best ever..


Chris Ault in Nevada can lay claim to that as well. He turned bottom feeder Nevada into a very good team with his innovative "Air Wolf" offense and retired to be AD. Things turned to complete crap on the football field.

So, naturally, Ault comes back and revolutionizes football (at all levels) by inventing the Pistol offense and rebuilds Nevada a second time.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Member since Oct 2025
746 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 10:03 am to
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I respect Baylor and A&M for beating both of Snyder’s best teams
People give my Aggies a lot of crap for “only” winning the big 12 title, but they beat Snyder.

Sorry guys, that is something.
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