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re: Better Point Guard: Tremont Waters or Jared Harper
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:10 pm to volfan30
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:10 pm to volfan30
quote:that's silly, especially for point guards. they're a part of the picture and waters is apparently significantly better in that regard. i think harper is really good. he's just not as good as waters. i just don't think he's capable of doing the miraculous things waters has on his highlight reel; the block against houston, the michigan layup, the a&m buzzer beater, etc. his passes are the closest thing to magic johnson i can recall seeing in a lonnnnnnng time
Steals are an awful way to judge defensive ability
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:18 pm to bfniii
We all have a little homer in us, but this guy is the closest thing you’ve seen to Magic, passing wise, in a long time? Seriously? And steals aren’t really a good way to judge how good a player is defensively. It just means he’s good at stealing the ball.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:25 pm to pioneerbasketball
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Better Point Guard: Tremont Waters or Jared Harper
*fat lady wut?*
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:11 pm to Smoke7024
quote:absolutely. throw a name in the hat if you want. the kid is amazing.
this guy is the closest thing you’ve seen to Magic, passing wise, in a long time?
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steals aren’t really a good way to judge how good a player is defensively. It just means he’s good at stealing the ball
which is a defensive statistic which was the subject.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 1:42 pm to Smoke7024
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We all have a little homer in us, but this guy is the closest thing you’ve seen to Magic
I thought that was ben Simmons
This post was edited on 11/13/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 8:30 am to pioneerbasketball
updated the stats in the OP
Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:10 am to pioneerbasketball
Tremont Waters is apparently basketball Jesus. He does a lot of miraculous and amazing things.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 9:11 am
Posted on 11/14/18 at 9:22 am to pioneerbasketball
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updated the stats in the OP
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Season Stats
Harper 16.5/ppg 5/rpg 9/ast 1.5/tpg
Waters 12.7/ppg 1.3/rpg 6.7/ast 3.7/tpg
Wow, Waters has really fallen off so far. Sophomore slump much?
Great players experience a surge in year 2, like Jared Harper.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:21 pm to BowlJackson
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Wow, Waters has really fallen off so far. Sophomore slump much?
To be fair, LSU has played one more game at this point.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:27 pm to BowlJackson
waiter,ahater,water whatever, is okay....i watched him some ast night...pretty nifty little point player....if we had him,he would get a few minutes for us this year to rest harper
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:34 pm to thunderbird1100
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I know Tremont is more like 5'9
I had no idea he could even dunk it until this season.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:36 pm to BowlJackson
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Sophomore slump much?
Has more to do with changes to the team. This LSU team is much bigger, more athletic, and more talented. Waters is struggling to adjust at times. Last night was a prime example. He got in the groove with the other players in the second half and looked more like his old self.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:38 pm to BowlJackson
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Wow, Waters has really fallen off so far. Sophomore slump much?
It's been 3 games
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Great players experience a surge in year 2, like Jared Harper.
Harper barely was any better than his freshman year his sophomore year.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:43 pm to LSU Patrick
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This LSU team is much bigger, more athletic, and more talented. Waters is struggling to adjust at times. Last night was a prime example. He got in the groove with the other players in the second half and looked more like his old self.
Are you saying his style doesn't work unless he can hog the ball?
Posted on 11/14/18 at 12:45 pm to BowlJackson
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Are you saying his style doesn't work unless he can hog the ball?
We'll make a good poster out of you one of these days, Bowl.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:08 pm to burdhead
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pretty nifty little point player
I'll give you a pass because some of this is still new to you Posted on 11/14/18 at 1:59 pm to BowlJackson
Waters had to carry the team last year. This year we are a lot more balanced and talented. Not up to Auburn, UT or UK yet but Wade is doing a great job of building our program up
Posted on 11/14/18 at 2:04 pm to BowlJackson
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Are you saying his style doesn't work unless he can hog the ball?
He's saying he's getting used to playing with a bunch of new players, ones that can do a lot of work now on offense. Everyone he played with last year is gone except 2 guys, and only 1 of them even starts with him. So it's a chemistry thing all over again early on.
His late 2nd half last night was a thing of magic, he was basically getting assists at will (3 in like a few minutes span). Dribble drive and pass for an easy 2.
And 1 thing that makes Waters MISSES even not a bad thing is he knows when he can take chances with players able to clean up his misses around him. His vision is just unparalleled. Before he goes to the rim it's like he knows where everyone is on the court and if he feels like he has number inside takes a chance sometimes knowing it's a high chance we get the offensive board. He was only 3/11 last night, but 3 of his misses were rebounded by us because he saw us having numbers a few of those times.
This post was edited on 11/14/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 11/14/18 at 5:36 pm to burdhead
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i watched him some ast night...pretty nifty little point player
Can't decide if this is a troll or being serious.
Posted on 11/14/18 at 5:50 pm to pioneerbasketball
He did have a nifty little 8 points last night
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