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re: best 1-4 v. 4 Conf. champs, your opinions

Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:36 am to
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:36 am to
I say 6 teams, 5 conference champs and the highest ranked mid-major.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 11:37 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:36 am to
16-team tournament, all 11 conference champs plus the 5 best at-large teams. Everybody gets a chance, no more bitching. The other divisions make it work.
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
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Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:38 am to
Have a 16 team play-off and you might as well say the regular season has no purpose.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22575 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:40 am to
Seeing how there's no way the playoff is going to be more than 4 teams, maybe some of you could contribute your ideas more efficiently if you kept them in that proposal.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12273 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:48 am to
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Have a 16 team play-off and you might as well say the regular season has no purpose
So the regular season in every other level of college football has no purpose? Of course it does, the purpose is to determine which 16 teams get into the playoff. Just like the purpose now is to determine which 2 teams get into the playoff.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:48 am to
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Since the BCS, what 5th ranked team has ever been argued to have deserved a shot at the title? None


Georgia/USC 2007.

Final BCS standings:
1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Virginia Tech
4. Georgia/USC?
5. Georgia/USC?
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:49 am to
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Have a 16 team play-off and you might as well say the regular season has no purpose.


I think we pretty much screamed that from the mountaintop last year. The whole "every game counts" line of bullshite has been exposed. Why continue pretending that the regular season means anything?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12273 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:50 am to
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Seeing how there's no way the playoff is going to be more than 4 teams, maybe some of you could contribute your ideas more efficiently if you kept them in that proposal.
Fair enough point for the time being.

That said, I believe one of two things eventually happens (by "eventually" I mean 10-20 years down the road):

(1) Four 16-20 team superconferences emerge and have a 4-team playoff of their champions; or

(2) The 16-team playoff described above.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:51 am to
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anything that requires Conference Champions only will hurt the regular season I believe.


How will requiring teams to win their conference hurt the regular season? It seems just the opposite. The regular season (i.e. winning your conference) would be crucial.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:53 am to
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8 team tournament, conference champs/ND if ranked in top 10, then at-large the rest. 4 teams doesn't solve the issue, or there wouldn't be debate.

8 team tournament, 6 BCS conference champs, 2 highest rated non-bcs champs based on SOS.

No "at large"/"wildcard" bullshite, no opinion polls and no byes.

If you don't win your conference title, you don't get a chance to play for the national title.

Is the Big 10 champ better than the WAC champ? Is the Big East champ better than the CUSA champ? Give them a chance to prove it on the field.

Keep it simple.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:54 am to
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Top 4 by BCS ranking. No need to make it any more complex than that


The only valid system will be one that has NO reliance on subjective opinion polls or imperfect computer models. Every team must have a chance to win the title by winning all of their games. That means every conference champion should be in a playoff. If you want the regular season still to mean something, don't have any wild card teams, and then the regular season conference races will be of paramount importance.
Posted by breeze
Member since Jan 2011
465 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:56 am to
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How will requiring teams to win their conference hurt the regular season? It seems just the opposite. The regular season (i.e. winning your conference) would be crucial.


I feel like we are going in circles. Because the Big East is LESS than the SEC.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 11:59 am to
Top 3 plus Bama gets a automatic bid every year


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Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:08 pm to
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I feel like we are going in circles. Because the Big East is LESS than the SEC.

So what?

Besides, that's your opinion.

Let them play it on the field and prove it.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9542 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:10 pm to
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8 teams enter 1 team leave. 4 conference champs 4 wild card by poll


I like this. Take the 4 highest ranked conference champions and the highest ranked wildcard teams and make a Top 12 ranking requirement to be in the 8 team playoff. This year's playoff would have included (in no particular order) LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Wisconsin, Stanford, Boise State, and Arkansas.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:12 pm
Posted by breeze
Member since Jan 2011
465 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:37 pm to
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I feel like we are going in circles. Because the Big East is LESS than the SEC.

So what?


So, a team like Boise State could find a way into every year even if they begin having 1-2 loss seasons. I suspect a majority may end up having issues with this.
Posted by FincAg11
San Antonio
Member since May 2012
414 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:40 pm to
8 team playoff. 6 conference champions and 2 at large bids. 4 conference champs and 4 at large if we go to a super-conference system.

You could even keep the BCS bowls the same, except they would just be first round playoff games.

4 is probably too few. 16 would take significant meaning away from some regular season games. 8 is the perfect number. I honestly don't know why it isn't obvious to more people.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:48 pm
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5581 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:45 pm to
Anything more than a 6 team playoff teams can bench players and get away with it. And even 6 is pushing it.
Posted by FincAg11
San Antonio
Member since May 2012
414 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:46 pm to
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Anything more than a 6 team playoff teams can bench players and get away with it. And even 6 is pushing it.


Ehh. Agree to disagree on that.
This post was edited on 6/13/12 at 12:47 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 6/13/12 at 12:59 pm to
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So, a team like Boise State could find a way into every year even if they begin having 1-2 loss seasons. I suspect a majority may end up having issues with this.

Not if their SOS drops.

But then again, shouldn't they get a shot at some point?
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