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Bammers where would you rate Mac Jones among Saban's QBs (other than Tua?)

Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:11 pm
Almost unfair to compare the others to a generational talent like TT
1 Mac Jones and McCarron tie
3 Hurts
4 Wilson (don't laugh, he had much less talent around him)
5 Sims
6 Coker
7 McElroy
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 3:18 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:13 pm to
1. Tua
2. Jake Coker
3. Blake Sims
4. Greg McElroy
5. AJ McCarron (wasn’t that good despite natties)
6. Jalen Hurts
7. Mac Jones
8. JP Wilson
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:16 pm to
No respect for the guy who weathered the storm of the end of Shula AND perfected the Bama Bangs
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:17 pm to
1. Coker from LSU - Clemson
2. Mac
3. AJ
4. Blake (#1 in hearts)
5. Hurts (run threat > JPW)
6. JPW
7. McElroy
8. Coker before LSU
9. Phil Sims
10. Bateman
11. Barnett
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 3:20 pm
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15746 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:19 pm to
Not a Bammer, but here’s my rankings:

1. Jones.
2. Tua
3. Everybody else
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33919 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:21 pm to
1 AJ
2 Mac
3 Sims
4 Coker
5 Hurts
6 Wilson
7 McElroy
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:21 pm to
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No respect for the guy who weathered the storm of the end of Shula AND perfected the Bama Bangs


Dude sucked. Coker is the most underrated QB in the last 20 years. Other than Ridley there was no real talent around him.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:25 pm to
Mac
AJ
Coker
Jalen
Sims
McElroy
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:26 pm to
People forget McElroy was literally one bad drive to start the 2nd half against LSU from being benched for a freshman AJ.

His performance from Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee and 1st half of LSU in 2009 was the worst 3+ game stretch of QB play of the Saban era.
This post was edited on 12/4/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:28 pm to
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People forget McElroy was literally one bad drive to start the 2nd half against LSU


Oh really? Were you a coach on that team?

McElroy was a better QB than AJ it’s not even close.
Posted by themicah85
DALLAS TX
Member since Jul 2015
3501 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:29 pm to
Why other than Tua? I feel like Mac has done as well as Tua. Tua just got Crazy hype because of the way his career began. Not that he was bad, he was obviously great but its not like Tua is just such a clear number 1 that Mac does'nt even belong in the conversation. (assuming thats where you were going with the whole "other than Tua" remark)
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

People forget McElroy was literally one bad drive to start the 2nd half against LSU from being benched for a freshman AJ.

His performance from Ole Miss, Tennessee and 1st half of LSU in 2009 was the worst 2+ game stretch of QB play of the Saban era.


I didn't forget.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64952 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

McElroy was a better QB than AJ it’s not even close.


I'm gonna have to stop you right there, guy. McCarron never once went into the slump McElroy descended into in the middle of the 2009 season. His play would have cost us the South Carolina game if not for Mark Ingram's heroics. AJ was a far more efficient passer who put up better numbers that McElroy did. You can say McCarron had better talent surrounding him, but to that I say horseshite. In 2010, McElroy was protected by three future first rounders at the OL position, he had two first round running backs lined up behind him, and he had a future first rounder and Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee lined up at wide receiver.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:36 pm to
I remember. I also remember him playing so bad in the SC game we moved Ingram to wildcat QB and ran the ball every play to win the game.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

I'm gonna have to stop you right there, guy. McCarron never once went into the slump McElroy descended into in the middle of the 2009 season. His play would have cost us the South Carolina game if not for Mark Ingram's heroics. AJ was a far more efficient passer who put up better numbers that McElroy did. You can say McCarron had better talent surrounding him, but to that I say horseshite. In 2010, McElroy was protected by three future first rounders at the OL position, he had two first round running backs lined up behind him, and he had a future first rounder and Pro Football Hall of Fame inductee lined up at wide receiver.




You are leaving off two important details.

- Greg was much better at hitting the big play
- Greg was a much better runner
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64952 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Greg was much better at hitting the big play


Where are the stats to back this up? Even if this were true, McCarron was much better at distributing the football overall.

quote:

Greg was a much better runner


Who cares? He was an inferior passer.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:41 pm to
It seems to me that my fellow Bama fans spent to much time looking at AJ’s girlfriend to realize that he wasn’t a good QB.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22511 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:41 pm to
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Dude sucked. Coker is the most underrated QB in the last 20 years. Other than Ridley there was no real talent around him.

Ehh..Henry won the Heisman. I know you mean receiver but Coker had so many games in which he threw for under 200 yards and just handed off to Henry 25-35 times. And OJ and Stewart were good receivers so there was talent. I mean he got consistently gifted by Clemson with Howard in the NCG. Howard was wide open on every single one of his 6 catches for 200+ yards.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27519 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Where are the stats to back this up?


In 1026 career pass attempts at Alabama, only 64 of AJ’s passes went 10 yards past the line of scrimmage.

quote:

Even if this were true, McCarron was much better at distributing the football overall.



Oh yes. He was excellent at screen passes and handoffs
Posted by JCinBAMA
North of Huntsville
Member since Oct 2009
17584 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

Oh really? Were you a coach on that team?

McElroy was a better QB than AJ it’s not even close.



You know how I tell you're a GA. fan you know nothing about
watching a QB play.
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