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re: Bama's Road Schedule

Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:30 pm to
In case anyone else finds this interesting, here are the statistics for all SEC teams since 2007 (did not include A&M or Mizzou) involving their record against teams that finished ranked in the Top 25 in road games:

*Note: These stats do include non-conference games. Any road game is counted.


Best Winning Percentage Against Ranked Teams on the Road:

50.0%- Alabama
36.8%- S. Carolina
31.3%- Florida
29.2%- Auburn
27.3%- Arkansas
23.1%- LSU
20.0%- Ole Miss
18.2%- Georgia
6.3%- Mississippi State
4.8%- Vanderbilt
0.0%- Kentucky
0.0%- Tennessee

*Pretty incredible run for Bama to get to 50% in road games against ranked teams (Final Rankings). Also, I was surprised at the order of things. Pretty surprising to see South Carolina in 2nd place in this category, yet LSU and Georgia have been in the middle of the pack.

Road Games played since 2007 against teams that finished in the AP Top 25:
24- Auburn
22- Arkansas
21- Vanderbilt
19- S. Carolina
19- Tennessee
16- Florida
16- Mississippi State
15- Ole Miss
13- LSU
13- Kentucky
11- Georgia
10- Alabama

While the Bama fans are always quick to disagree that they get a scheduling advantage from the SEC office, its hard to deny the facts that prove one may exist.

The truth is, Georgia and Florida are going to be artificially low because our annual game against each other is counted as "Neutral", when in all likelihood, if the game was played on campus, both teams would see an increase.

Bama has played just 2 cross-divisional SEC road games since 2007 against teams that finished ranked in the Top 25... the other 11 schools in the league have averaged 5.3 apiece. And you can't say, "It's because we aren't able to play ourselves"... South Carolina has played 19 road games against ranked teams and only one was against Alabama.

Auburn has played an incredible 24 road games against ranked teams in the past 9 seasons... that averages out to 2.7 per season. While 4 of those were against Alabama in Tuscaloosa, that leaves 20 additional road games against ranked teams, or in other words, still double the number Bama has played.

While I don't see it as a "conspiracy", nevertheless its impossible to deny that Alabama has somehow come away with an unbelievably easy schedule compared to many of the other SEC programs during the Saban era.
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 3:33 pm
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:41 pm to
So Tennessee is 0-19 since 2007?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26521 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

While the Bama fans are always quick to disagree that they get a scheduling advantage from the SEC office, its hard to deny the facts that prove one may exist.


It's hard to deny the facts that "prove" something "may" exist? Okay.

quote:

While I don't see it as a "conspiracy", nevertheless its impossible to deny that Alabama has somehow come away with an unbelievably easy schedule compared to many of the other SEC programs during the Saban era.



You should have just stuck with this (and you should have clarified that Alabama has somehow come away with relatively easy road schedule). Basically, Tennessee used to be good but they have sucked during the Saban era and consequently Alabama's SEC cross-divisional SOS has pretty much sucked as well. It's not really that hard to figure out.

Other than that you simply have an anomaly that Alabama's had a lot more ranked opponents at home and at neutral sites than on the road. That's pure coincidence since teams alternate home/away each year in the SEC.



This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 3:45 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26521 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

Road Games played since 2007 against teams that finished in the AP Top 25:
24- Auburn
22- Arkansas
21- Vanderbilt
19- S. Carolina
19- Tennessee
16- Florida
16- Mississippi State
15- Ole Miss
13- LSU
13- Kentucky
11- Georgia
10- Alabama

While the Bama fans are always quick to disagree that they get a scheduling advantage from the SEC office, its hard to deny the facts that prove one may exist.


SEC office doesn't influence home/away, that simply alternates. So how does Alabama's total games played since 2007 against teams that finished in the AP top 25 compare to the other teams? You've established that Alabama has caught teams while they are down on the road relatively speaking, but to make a conclusive determination about Alabama's SOS, there is no reason to exclude home and neutral games.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

So Tennessee is 0-19 since 2007?


Yes. Kentucky was the other team that was winless on the road against ranked teams (since 2007). They were 0-13.
Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:49 pm to
Look, somebody else did the stupid haven't beat somebody that finished in the top 10. So when you beat somebody in college football, I wonder what the odds are of that team finishing in top 10. Geez
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31654 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:56 pm to
You have wayyyy too ,unchanged time on your hands Kyle
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

So Tennessee is 0-19 since 2007?


Yes. Kentucky was the other team that was winless on the road against ranked teams (since 2007). They were 0-13.
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Don't be like ole miss


Upvoted

We've actually beaten Bama a significant amount of times in our history, unlike them. If we win the TSIO this year it doesn't warrant a fieldstorming imo.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9872 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Road Games played since 2007 against teams that finished in the AP Top 25:


Would be interesting to see how many of these games are against Alabama.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15723 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

While the Bama fans are always quick to disagree that they get a scheduling advantage from the SEC office, its hard to deny the facts that prove one may exist.



and yet not one of the 13 other ADs in the SEC does a thing about it. Amazing

quote:

While I don't see it as a "conspiracy", nevertheless its impossible to deny that Alabama has somehow come away with an unbelievably easy schedule compared to many of the other SEC programs during the Saban era.


and UGA has played ONE more road game against a team that finished in the top 25. How the hell does the REC and the Freemasons in the SEC Office plan that out?
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:03 pm
Posted by ArabianKnight
Member since Jul 2010
2694 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:01 pm to
The conclusion of all of this is simple. When you get beat down at home by Bama, you drop in the polls. Quickly.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Look, somebody else did the stupid haven't beat somebody that finished in the top 10.- crimsonian


Anyone know Redneckeese? I need a translator.

quote:

So when you beat somebody in college football, I wonder what the odds are of that team finishing in top 10. Geez


Trying to decipher the meaning of this, but I think you're trying to say, "What are the chances of a team finishing in the Top 10 once they have a loss." Do I have that right?

If so, I don't know. The topic here is Final Top 25. And I think its fairly normal for most teams in the Final Top 25 to have several losses.

Posted by crimsonian
Florida
Member since Jun 2012
7374 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:04 pm to
Pretty sure you used a top 10 in your post.

Dumb redneck
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:05 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30871 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:04 pm to
Since Alabama will probably be favored in nearly all those road games, you'd be a complete idiot not to bet the farm against Alabama in every one of them...right?
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:05 pm
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Road Games played since 2007 against teams that finished in the AP Top 25:


Would be interesting to see how many of these games are against Alabama.- Old Hellen Yeller


Here you go:

Road games played against ranked teams, also road games played against a ranked Alabama team:

Arkansas- 22 total; 4 against Alabama
Auburn- 24 total; 4 against Alabama
Florida- 16 total; 0 against Alabama
Georgia- 11 total; 0 against Alabama
Kentucky- 13 total; 1 against Alabama
LSU- 13 total; 4 against Alabama
Ole Miss- 15 total; 5 against Alabama
Miss. St.- 16 total; 4 against Alabama
S. Carolina- 19 total; 1 against Alabama
Tennessee- 19 total; 4 against Alabama
Vanderbilt- 21 total; 1 against Alabama
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The conclusion of all of this is simple. When you get beat down at home by Bama, you drop in the polls. Quickly.


Actually that's not a big part of it. The other 11 SEC programs since 2007 have combined to play 441 total games against teams that finished in the AP Top 25... 64 of those were against Alabama, making up about 14% of those games.

Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15723 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Actually that's not a big part of it. The other 11 SEC programs since 2007 have combined to play 441 total games against teams that finished in the AP Top 25... 64 of those were against Alabama, making up about 14% of those games.



So why has UGA only faced 12 teams under your criteria?
This post was edited on 6/13/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26521 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

The conclusion of all of this is simple. When you get beat down at home by Bama, you drop in the polls. Quickly.


quote:

Actually that's not a big part of it. The other 11 SEC programs since 2007 have combined to play 441 total games against teams that finished in the AP Top 25... 64 of those were against Alabama, making up about 14% of those games.


BHMKyle, it would be better if you stuck your talking points to either total games or road games, but you keep going back and forth. If you are trying to make a point about Alabama's road SOS then stick with those stats instead of jumping back and forth causing your comparisons/responses to be apples and oranges.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69383 posts
Posted on 6/13/16 at 4:16 pm to
quote:

Clearly didn't get drunk enough after the game.


I promise you. That was not the problem. LOL

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