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re: Bama/Fresno State Game In Doubt?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:28 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:28 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Can we ban liberal trash from California from moving to Texas as well?
And Arizona.
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Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:34 am to phaz
Trump made their asses quit 
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:41 am to roadkill
The game will be played.
Faux outrage.
Faux outrage.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:42 am to roadkill
I hate to ever say "Congress should get involved" but this might be the rare exception. If you can use interstate commerce as justification for regulating toilets and light bulbs, then surely you can use interstate commerce to pass a law banning states from restricting interstate travel by state employees. Especially when it is being done in an economically coercive or punitive fashion. These are exactly the types of situations our founders envisioned when they gave Congress the right to regulate interstate commerce. They didn't want one state bullying others and using the nation's economy as their weapon.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 10:57 am to Monticello
Interesting that someone who finds themselves on the republican side of this would advocate for the federal government to restrict states' rights. Strange bedfellows for sure.
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seems to be M.O. the federal government, especially as it relates the the interstate commerce clause
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Especially when it is being done in an economically coercive or punitive fashion.
seems to be M.O. the federal government, especially as it relates the the interstate commerce clause
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:00 am to SomewhereDownInTX
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Liberalism is a disease.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:14 am to UAtide11
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Interesting that someone who finds themselves on the republican side of this would advocate for the federal government to restrict states' rights. Strange bedfellows for sure.
There is a difference between a state having a right to do what it wants within its own borders and another thing entirely when a state makes decisions that greatly impact other states (and in this case are specifically designed to impact and coerce). That was the whole point of the commerce clause. Congress didn't want states using the nation's economy to coerce or negatively impact other states. I have no problem with California's citizens having the right to enact laws allowing gay people to do whatever they want there. But don't try to intentionally inflict harm upon Alabama's economy because our citizens think a private, Baptist adoption organization should be able to exercise its 1st amendment right to reject gay couples from adopting from their organization.
So what is the end game here? Do Texas, Alabama, Kentucky, etc now pass laws saying our state employees can't travel with state money to any state that has a similar ban on us? Before you know it, half the nation will be closed off to government travel. Congress and/or the courts will get involved eventually.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:18 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:17 am to roadkill
So a state passes a law stating that "private" adoption agencies can based on their beliefs only place children with traditional man and woman families. It's not like the state said gay couples can't adopt. They just need to find an agency that will place children with them. California thinks gay rights should be protected, but could not care less if religious rights are protected. How very tolerant of them. 
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:29 am to Monticello
you mean like alabama and mississippi being poor... making the federal government give handouts to states that don't put back into the federal coffer. seems as if this would apply to an argument somewhere. How about all states stop being stupid and overly ambitious about regulating shite that doesn't matter like gays marrying people, citizens owning guns and people smoking herbs. Can't we just all play football and make fun of Florida fans and their jorts?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:39 am to Aman
The law only hurts the kids.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:46 am to roadkill
wow
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 11:47 am
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:49 am to pvilleguru
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You don't see a problem with keeping a kid in foster care instead of a loving family that wants them just because the adopting parents are the same sex?
That's not at all what I said, and you know it. Go through a different agency.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:51 am to UAtide11
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Alabama fans in this thread trashing California are pretty funny. Birmingham filed the second largest municipal bankruptcy in US History just 5 or so years ago. Governor Bentley was forced to resign in April and was under criminal investigation. The Cheif Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court was removed from the bench in '03, got back on in '11, and then got removed again this year for ethics violations. And last year the Speaker of the Alabama House was removed from office and sent to prison for four felonies.
But by all means, let's hear about how crooked and bankrupt California is.
But didn't you know that Democrat/ liberal = evil from Satan and Republican/ conservative = good from Jesus?
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:56 am to roadkill
I have a hard time feeling bad. The state did something stupid passing that law.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 12:21 pm to roadkill
Three letters: UAB
They'll play Bama if FS pulls out.
They'll play Bama if FS pulls out.
This post was edited on 6/23/17 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 6/23/17 at 12:57 pm to tWildcat
Speaking of Kentucky being on the travel ban list, their protest of that particular law just illustrates how bat s### crazy and hypocritical Cali is being. California can pick and choose which states they want to associate with based on what offends them but Kentucky small business owners can't refuse service in a situation that directly goes against their religious convictions. Even worse, Cali also doesn't like that Kentucky school admins are banned from silencing and punishing students who wear clothing that depicts religious or political messages. They'd be all for it if they could control those messages but because their political and religious narrative can't be guaranteed in Kentucky they hold that against the state as well.
When you use logic to try to understand progressives you begin to understand why they've given up even trying to defend their arguments because even they know they're laughable. It's why they attack and label theor political opponents with every "ist" in the book instead of presenting an actual counter argument.
When you use logic to try to understand progressives you begin to understand why they've given up even trying to defend their arguments because even they know they're laughable. It's why they attack and label theor political opponents with every "ist" in the book instead of presenting an actual counter argument.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 1:16 pm to BowlJackson
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That's not at all what I said, and you know it. Go through a different agency.
It's exactly what you are said. You have an eligible couple come in wanting to adopt, and this "Christian" agency tells them to frick off because they happen to be the same sex.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 2:20 pm to Bham Bammer
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Pretty terrible headline from AL.com
Aren't they the same owners as NOLA.com? If so, they long ago gave up being a reliable paper.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 2:36 pm to pvilleguru
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The law only hurts the kids.
How exactly? If I run an adoption agency and the government tells me I have to place children with gay families, I shut my doors and find another line of work. I don't feel being gay should be a reason to be denied a job, loan, etc, but private citizens should be able to run their organization without having to compromise their beliefs. Government run adoption agencies are another thing altogether. The government should not get involved in religious beliefs, but mine and yours should be protected. This will not affect one kid in the state of Alabama and you saying it will is just wrong. There will still be plenty of agencies where gay coupes can apply to adopt a kid in Alabama, but private agencies and for that matter parents giving their child up for adoption, should have the right to have a say in the makeup of the family that adopts.
Posted on 6/23/17 at 6:51 pm to pvilleguru
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You don't see a problem with keeping a kid in foster care instead of a loving family that wants them just because the adopting parents are the same sex?
Nope.
Promotion of gay marriage is more than "not Christian" it hurts future growth in a time our birth rate is low. We as a nation are hurting the future with promoting this. In a simple way it's like a company putting things in place that hampers manufacturing, R&D, etc. The long term trickle affect is going to be seen by the next generations. We are messing with the most natural thing mother nature gave us to succeed for the future...procreation.
With legal abortions, and promotion of gay marriage our nation is screwed. The gov'ts "widget" is "we the people." Promotion of anything that hampers creation of new "widgets" hurts the future. Big reason why no one will truly do anything about illegal immigration, because birth rates would be way lower than they are now if it weren't for all the mexican catholics coming over here humping like crazy.
But hey....as long as we all get along, and love each by being "opened minded"....amirite?? Well...."if you open your mind to wide your brain will fall out." (or something like that, and don't remember the source)
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