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Bama fans, what do you think about this?

Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:44 pm
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7136 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:44 pm
saw this post elsewhere....what are your thoughts about the points made? Right on, almost on, missed the mark? I'm curious myself because Bama didn't even look like itself out there vs. Texas.

Patterson had a hand in that assisting UTx's defense, but still....Bama's come up against stouter defenses and better athletes before and I just wasn't expecting to see what I saw.

Anyhow, here's an excerpt....

What I think is going on at Bama...and other thoughts...

Culture.

I think the culture at Bama is eroding. What evidence do I have. Attitudes last year. This year...

I saw a video of Nick Saban yelling at his team to "Stop that Sh**" when the Bama players were giving the horns down sign.

Why?

1. The support staff and coaches. Not the same as it was lets say when he had that ridiculous 2015 staff. From what I can tell it's not the same.

2. LOS...their best OL and DL players from last season are gone. Its not like ours where we have talent, desire and ability just lacking experience.

3. Coaching philosophy...how many times do we hear "physicality" from Kirby?...btw not sure that is a real word but it is a real state of mind. It just doesn't seem to me that this is stressed.

4. Coaching staff turnover. This seems to happen more so than when Saban was building Bama.

It just seems to me that the mindset of that program is not what it was when Kirby was there. It has been a slow burn...IMO.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 5:46 pm
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
4231 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:46 pm to
Bunch of horse manure.
Posted by MacMan10
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2020
2122 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:46 pm to
Georgia fans are freaking out about this Texas game lol

Look at recruiting and tell me what you see.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7136 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:49 pm to
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Georgia fans are freaking out about this Texas game lol

Look at recruiting and tell me what you see.

This isn't a troll at all and not meant to be. Every team will struggle a bit at the first part of the season. I think Bama will be just fine -- heaven help the next opponent on Bama's schedule after the Texas debacle.

I agree that an assessment like this is a tad premature and shortsighted. If it continues thru the season, then it's a confirmation that something's wrong and/or has changed from what it had been there.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
Member since Oct 2018
5357 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:50 pm to
This is roughly the 12th year I’ve read that Saban is losing it, the game has passed him by, he’ll hang it up this year, they’ll use his age against him in recruiting, he looks old….blah blah blah. I know you’ve dreamed and prayed for it for many years. It’s gonna happen someday, but not today. Sorry.
Posted by TheBiggestBrother
Nashville
Member since Jul 2021
2091 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:52 pm to
The main thing we need is a new offensive coordinator. There's really no rhythm or precision to this offense like we're used to seeing.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:54 pm to
I think it’s Saban. I ain’t ever liked the guy. I thought we should’ve left his arse in Miami and refocused our efforts on getting rid of Rich Rod’s crazy old lady.










Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
1896 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 5:59 pm to
4 is the only real point you’ve made. We deal with it most seasons.

The issue is BoB is just not that creative and in the era of offense our vast array of weapons are being poorly utilized

Still probably gonna make it to the playoffs where we’ll have at least a 50% chance to win the whole thing. Just gonna be more ugly wins along the way than what everyone is used to seeing is all
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
7549 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:00 pm to
That’s the most accurate description of the Bama program that I’ve ever read.
Posted by Sgt Tuffnuts
Middle Georgia
Member since Jul 2022
2095 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

The main thing we need is a new offensive coordinator. There's really no rhythm or precision to this offense like we're used to seeing.



Georgia's defense gave up 13 touchdowns last year and 6 were to Alabama. The OC couldn't be completely incompetent.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7136 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:03 pm to
quote:

The main thing we need is a new offensive coordinator. There's really no rhythm or precision to this offense like we're used to seeing.

I agree and I think this is what some, who see something different about Bama this year, are probably referring to.

On D, Bama seems just like the same 'ol Bama.
Posted by LG2BAMA
Texas
Member since Dec 2015
1180 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
12998 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:09 pm to
I don't follow Bama as closely as the average Bama fan, but what stood out to me on Saturday was the lack of one or more game breakers at WR, which Bama has had for as long as I can remember. IIRC, O'Brien didn't even call a deep pass until less than two minutes left in the first half. If he did, the play got blown up before Bryce could get the pass off.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5680 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:29 pm to
Wrong, misguided and hopeful from someone who's a fan of another school.

quote:


1. The support staff and coaches. Not the same as it was lets say when he had that ridiculous 2015 staff. From what I can tell it's not the same.


Wrong.
The support staff in 2015 is the same as it is now. No one in 2015 knew half of them were going to be Power 5 coaches. And you're lying if you think you did.
Same can be said for this staff.

quote:


2. LOS...their best OL and DL players from last season are gone. Its not like ours where we have talent, desire and ability just lacking experience.



I'm assuming "ours" means UGA.
Again. Another dumb point. Alabama and UGA's OL and DL recruiting is the same.
UGA can use the excuse of "no experience" but Alabama can't.
Get real.

Dumb point.

quote:


3. Coaching philosophy...how many times do we hear "physicality" from Kirby?...btw not sure that is a real word but it is a real state of mind. It just doesn't seem to me that this is stressed.


Kirby's coaching philosophy is Saban's coaching philosophy. Kirby has tried to copy everything about Alabama down to taking a picture of Bama's recruiting board before he left for UGA.
Kirby doesn't have an original bone in his body.

Again, dumb point.

quote:


4. Coaching staff turnover. This seems to happen more so than when Saban was building Bama.


Coaching staff turnover happens at successful programs. I understand why UGA fans aren't used to it.
They won a championship and lost their DC.

Saban just deals with it better.

Another dumb point.

quote:


It just seems to me that the mindset of that program is not what it was when Kirby was there. It has been a slow burn...IMO.


Alabama has won 2 national Championships and has had 2 Heismans since Kirby left.

Kirby has a losing record to Alabama.

Kirby was lucky he was just a part of the ride at Alabama.

quote:


I saw a video of Nick Saban yelling at his team to "Stop that Sh**" when the Bama players were giving the horns down sign.


This is just dumb and anecdotal.
A coach yells at player...news at 11.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2960 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:35 pm to
Coaching turnover at OC would have been a good thing, Belichick should have gotten Bob instead of having damn defensive guy as OC.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22474 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

I don't follow Bama as closely as the average Bama fan, but what stood out to me on Saturday was the lack of one or more game breakers at WR, which Bama has had for as long as I can remember. IIRC, O'Brien didn't even call a deep pass until less than two minutes left in the first half. If he did, the play got blown up before Bryce could get the pass off.




Seems accurate to me.

I don't think of offensive balance as passing vs running. I think of offensive balance as being what parts of the field you are attacking. Generally passing = attacking the deeper end of the field, but not always and as far as Alabama goes, basically never lately.

All we do is constantly attack the short side of the field. Throw a run, short side. Throw a bubble screen, short side. We get some decent mid range plays occasionally.

It just allows the defenses to cover less of the field.

But I have no idea why. I thought the Fox broadcast was extremely shitty. Too focused on the ball to see what was going on.

No idea if it was receivers not running good routes, not getting open, too slow to get downfield, if Texas dbs were holding them, or if Bryce just wasn't throwing to the wide open guys. I know Bryce had pressure a few times, but it didn't really seem to me like he didn't have time on most plays.

I really don't understand why people were jealous of the Fox Broadcast. It sucked.
Posted by Foots51
Salem. Al
Member since Sep 2022
185 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:39 pm to
I'm pretty sure that it all comes down to the O-Line. If Bryce has protection, then receivers have time to get open. If the O-Line can dominate its space, we have the RBs to run the ball consistently. Yes, the OC is unimaginative but an O-line from just 2 years ago would have this offense scoring 40-50 points per game. Sadly, we have missed on too many linemen lately.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 6:55 pm to
Or, perhaps an elite play caller with a year under his belt and some great offensive additions went up against an avg DC and a lot of other factors affected the intensity, execution and discipline of the talented Bama D.

Meanwhile, sloppy OL play and playmakers not making plays continued in an uninspired game plan.

Credit to UTx fans for creating a great home team advantage environment, their staff for excellent prep, and players (including backups) for executing.

It was a gritty win for Bama. The stats won't reflect it, but I continue to be impressed with how calm, confident and resilient Bryce Young is. Certain L without him. Plus, I can't be thankful enough to finally have a PK again that doesn't make me close my eyes and pray during any kick beyond PAT range.

Bama's only issue is the strength of its coordinators. They are good not great, but the Bama players failed to execute and lacked discipline across the board, so it would have been similar even with superb coordinators. A lot of that was UTx and Conditions influenced, but it just seemed they were poorly prepared and not ready to focus from the start.

Hope it was a one off, and the team learns from it. Happy for any W, and that was a great game all things considered
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
13834 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:00 pm to
Good post.
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