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Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:37 pm to secftw
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Hey everyone...we beat a couple more ranked teams.
Nevermind that the other guys have a win over a top 10 team...and nevermind we lost to an unranked nobody...just look at the total number of teams we beat outside of the top 10.
That's all that matters.
Wut?
You are clinging to Arkansas?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:38 pm to secftw
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Hey everyone...we beat a couple more ranked teams.
Nevermind that the other guys have a win over a top 10 team...and nevermind we lost to an unranked nobody...just look at the total number of teams we beat outside of the top 10.
That's all that matters.
A couple more? Try twice as many. Oklahoma St has a win over a top-10 team too. Almost 2, Kansas St is #11
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#10 Oklahoma (TDB), #11 Kansas St, #22 Texas, #17 Baylor, #25 Mizzou.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:39 pm to natethegreat
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It's almost like people are scared LSU can't pull it off again. They can, and they will. And hey, if it's close once again, this championship very well might just be split. We're sitting mighty pretty right now.
Spoken like a fan who doesn't want to lawyer into a MNC. All you have to do is just play whoever they put in front of you.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:41 pm to bmy
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bmy
To be fair we are all assuming the Big 12 is actually good.
Wait till after the bowl season to pass judgment on who OSU and Alabama have played.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:41 pm to arlo
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Spoken like a fan who doesn't want to lawyer into a MNC. All you have to do is just play whoever they put in front of you.
That's all LSU has to do. We don't play for the team. Alabama points out Oklahoma Sts loss because they have no wins to run on, effectively.
I'm not sold on Okie Lite beating Oklahoma anyways.. I know some are. But if they do beat OU, they have a resume fit for a championship appearance. I can't objectively say the same for Alabama.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:42 pm to bmy
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A couple more? Try twice as many. Oklahoma St has a win over a top-10 team too. Almost 2, Kansas St is #11
A. They have 4 wins over ranked teams. Bama has 2. So we are both correct. 2 more = a couple more...and it also = twice as many.
B. No, they don't have any wins over a team in the top 10. Kansas St is their top win at #11.
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Teams with good wins promote themselves. Teams with no wins point out weaknesses with others resumes. Guess which team Alabama is?
When all the Bama haters are so keen on ignoring the fact that OK State has lost to an unranked nobody...of course we're going to point it out.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:43 pm to RollTideRockStar
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To be fair we are all assuming the Big 12 is actually good.
Wait till after the bowl season to pass judgment on who OSU and Alabama have played.
Most teams are now 12 games into the season including numerous OOC matchups. The big12 has done exceptionally well in those OOC matchups. That's what the computers are based off in large part.
The fact is that the SEC just isn't that great this year. LSU and Alabama are obviously good.. and Arkansas being anywhere near the top-10 is a joke. Florida, Tenn, Auburn, Vandy, Miss St, Ole Miss.. would all probably be struggling to be bowl eligible in the Big12.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:44 pm to bmy
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That's all LSU has to do. We don't play for the team. Alabama points out Oklahoma Sts loss because they have no wins to run on, effectively.
Wrong. We point it out because you guys work so hard to ignore it.
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I'm not sold on Okie Lite beating Oklahoma anyways.. I know some are. But if they do beat OU, they have a resume fit for a championship appearance. I can't objectively say the same for Alabama.
They would have to win big. Your opinion is that the wins override that ridiculous loss.
Mine is that it doesn't.
Bottom line...neither of us gets a vote so it doesn't really matter what either of us thinks.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:45 pm to secftw
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A. They have 4 wins over ranked teams. Bama has 2. So we are both correct. 2 more = a couple more...and it also = twice as many.
B. No, they don't have any wins over a team in the top 10. Kansas St is their top win at #11.
2 of 12 = ~16% of wins over ranked opponents
5 of 12 = ~42% of wins over ranked opponents (win over OU) [Kansas St would then be a top-10 BCS team]
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When all the Bama haters are so keen on ignoring the fact that OK State has lost to an unranked nobody...of course we're going to point it out.
Or.. because Alabama really has a crappy schedule. I don't think for a minute that if Alabama had big wins against good teams to campaign on.. they wouldn't mention Oklahoma St losing at all. They would have no need to.. because their resume would speak for itself. It doesn't, though -- and that's what LSU fans point out. I obviously don't blame you guys for defending your team or anything dumb like that.. same thing I would do.
You see the CBS blind poll? 80% of thousands of voters believe that Oklahoma St has the better resume.. it's not just LSU fans.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:50 pm to bmy
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2 of 12 = ~16% of wins over ranked opponents
5 of 12 = ~42% of wins over ranked opponents (win over OU) [Kansas St would then be a top-10 BCS team]
wtf...you have to revert to percents?
My statement was straight forward. Number of games. Nowhere did I say anything about percents.
Also...you're assuming that they beat OU...again.
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Or.. because Alabama really has a crappy schedule.
Or...because like I said, everyone is working so hard to try and brush the Iowa State loss under the rug in a frantic effort to help Ok St jump Bama. The best part, is the majority of this is coming from the corndogs...which only continues to bolster the notion that you guys are indeed worried about playing Bama again.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:55 pm to secftw
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wtf...you have to revert to percents?
My statement was straight forward. Number of games. Nowhere did I say anything about percents.
Also...you're assuming that they beat OU...again.
Revert to percentages? What does that even mean? Like it's a last resort or something?
It just makes the point more clear. "a few more wins against ranked opponents" is a pretty big deal. I assume they beat OU because this conversation doesn't matter at all if they lose.. Alabama is in 100%. I doubt they beat OU though, as I've said.
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Or...because like I said, everyone is working so hard to try and brush the Iowa State loss under the rug in a frantic effort to help Ok St jump Bama. The best part, is the majority of this is coming from the corndogs...which only continues to bolster the notion that you guys are indeed worried about playing Bama again.
It's a bit of that and it's also a bit of looking at accomplishments. A 1-game fluke loss in the BCS title game would suck.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 5:59 pm to bmy
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Revert to percentages? What does that even mean? Like it's a last resort or something? It just makes the point more clear. "a few more wins against ranked opponents" is a pretty big deal.
I said they had a couple more ranked wins over us. You said they had twice as much...like I was wrong.
Neither of us was...and I pointed this out.
Then you randomly throw out percentages...like that's what I was talking about.
It's 2 more wins...2. Not 3. They haven't played OU yet lol. Stop trying to pump their numbers to help your argument.
I'm not arguing that Bama gets in over them if they beat OU, so i don't know why you're wasting your time.
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It's a bit of that and it's also a bit of looking at accomplishments. A 1-game fluke loss in the BCS title game would suck.
Fluke or no fluke...it happened.
Losing to the number one team on your home turf in OT by a FG isn't as bad as losing to a 21 point underdog. OT, double OT, triple OT...home/away...it doesn't matter. That doesn't happen and just get pushed aside like it doesn't matter.
inb4 dead basketball coaches get brought up as the reason OK St shite the bed against a nobody...again.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:02 pm to secftw
because we're ranked #2, and we aint skeered 
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:03 pm to bmy
both of our fan bases need to get past the deserve issue for the bcsncg.
there is a system in place for deciding who plays for the ncg. alabama agreed to be a part of this system, lsu agreed to be a part of this system, as well as all of the other teams who aspire to play in the big game.
the voters on an espn poll can go ahead an award lsu the people's choice national championship but it will still boil down to bcs mathamatics as to which teams play in january.
get mad at the system, not at alabama.
there is a system in place for deciding who plays for the ncg. alabama agreed to be a part of this system, lsu agreed to be a part of this system, as well as all of the other teams who aspire to play in the big game.
the voters on an espn poll can go ahead an award lsu the people's choice national championship but it will still boil down to bcs mathamatics as to which teams play in january.
get mad at the system, not at alabama.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:04 pm to ApexTiger
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My thread is about fairness around the CFB landscape.
If CFB is so unfair, LSU is not obligated to participate in the system that they agreed to.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:07 pm to bmy
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Most teams are now 12 games into the season including numerous OOC matchups. The big12 has done exceptionally well in those OOC matchups.
Just out of curiosity, but what are the BIg 12s best OOC wins?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:21 pm to bingo
Exactly.
I honestly think this situation will help lay the groundwork for some type of playoff in the future.
Goodluck in the dome.
I honestly think this situation will help lay the groundwork for some type of playoff in the future.
Goodluck in the dome.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:21 pm to northalabamacracker
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Just out of curiosity, but what are the BIg 12s best OOC wins?
OU versus Florida State
Baylor versus TCU
Kansas State versus Miami
Texas versus BYU
OSU versus Arizona
Posted on 11/28/11 at 6:24 pm to arwicklu
Look IDC who we play in the NC, or if they had to win their conference or not. I'm happy to be in the position we are in. So what if we have to play an extra game than #2 Bama. They might like the position they are in, but in the grand scheme of things are kicking themselves for not winning the title All SEC teams strive to win at the start of the season. The SEC title is this week and it gets my full attention. UGA is a good team, weak schedule, but they shouldn't be overlooked.
We are in the position every team in the nation covets. We are ranked number 1, we could possibly lose to UGA and still be ranked number one in the polls and play a NC, it's LSU's first 12-0(8-0) SEC season, It's Miles's first perfect regular season(if we win this weekend I guess you can spell Les Miles without two L's). LSU has never been in this position before and it feels amazing. We are the cream of the crop, the talk of the town, and you what ? It gets even better.
So everyone can keep talking about this rematch, who LSU should play(I'm going to say that again just because I like how it rolls off the tongue. WHO LSU should play), why Bama is number 2 and not blah blah blah. I'm going to enjoy this moment since there are many LSU fans that are no longer with us that would have dreamed to experience such a turn of events. We unseated possibly the most dominant Bama defense in it's storied history, beat 3 teams that were at the time ranked in the top 3, overcame self imposed adversity and unimposed scrutiny, and ... Look where we are. Look where they are.
Whose seat looks sweeter?
Let's curb stomp those mutts!
We are in the position every team in the nation covets. We are ranked number 1, we could possibly lose to UGA and still be ranked number one in the polls and play a NC, it's LSU's first 12-0(8-0) SEC season, It's Miles's first perfect regular season(if we win this weekend I guess you can spell Les Miles without two L's). LSU has never been in this position before and it feels amazing. We are the cream of the crop, the talk of the town, and you what ? It gets even better.
So everyone can keep talking about this rematch, who LSU should play(I'm going to say that again just because I like how it rolls off the tongue. WHO LSU should play), why Bama is number 2 and not blah blah blah. I'm going to enjoy this moment since there are many LSU fans that are no longer with us that would have dreamed to experience such a turn of events. We unseated possibly the most dominant Bama defense in it's storied history, beat 3 teams that were at the time ranked in the top 3, overcame self imposed adversity and unimposed scrutiny, and ... Look where we are. Look where they are.
Whose seat looks sweeter?
Let's curb stomp those mutts!
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