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re: Bad losses don’t matter to the CFP committee
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:50 am to cyclingout
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:50 am to cyclingout
And what I’m saying is all you’ve done on this board is pump Bama for days in a row. You’re not a Clemson fan it’s pretty obvious.
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Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:51 am to cyclingout
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I just believe that Bama gets in because if you just watch them play it is obvious that they are super talented and one of the best teams in the country
I hope this is not what the committee is doing. Obviously "I just believe" isn't going to cut it. Records and who you've beaten have to matter. I say this because it's possible to have a 2 loss SEC team that's "one of the best teams in the country" and they're not getting in over an undefeated Pac 12 champ. It becomes too subjective when the only criteria you have is eye test and vegas odds.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:54 am to SXV
If Orgeron winsoit and wins their conference championship, they jump Bama. It’s just that simple. They will have higher quality wins especially if Georgia beats Auburn.
Higher quality wins + more quality wins + conference championship > quality loss + no real quality win + no conference championship
Higher quality wins + more quality wins + conference championship > quality loss + no real quality win + no conference championship
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:58 am to Buga
This committee has gone full eye test. Dont expect any consistency to be identifiable with best win worst loss sos etc.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 8:59 am to Buga
If we're saying it's the 4 best teams, there's no way you can say a team from the PAC 12 is one of the best teams in the country. Not when their best win is another team from the PAC 12 who also hasn't had a big win
Use the same criteria for everybody, don't just single Bama out because you hope LSU doesn't have to play them again
Use the same criteria for everybody, don't just single Bama out because you hope LSU doesn't have to play them again
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:00 am to BearBait09
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This committee has gone full eye test.
I think ranking Georgia ahead of Bama is evidence against this.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:09 am to cyclingout
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Use the same criteria for everybody
I'm trying. You're apparently not understanding.
If Oregon and Utah play each other as top 10 teams in a 13th game at the end of the season, that has to matter. That's taking the subjectivity and past achievements out of the equation.
Imagine an ACC champion Clemson team, who lost their first game of the season on the road to Auburn, won 12 straight games, beat a no. 6 Miami team to end the season and missed the playoff to a one loss Oklahoma, who lost at home and didn't even play in their conf title game.
When you take the name Alabama out of the conversation, things start to clear up a bit.
This post was edited on 11/16/19 at 9:26 am
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:11 am to cyclingout
No, I believe under this system, every game matters. It's exactly why Greg Sankey said the CFP committee doesn't want to expand beyond 4 teams. They want games like Bama-LSU to have major playoff implications...to be an elimination game if you will.
There are going to be multiple teams with one loss at the end of the year along with Bama vying for a spot, so yes, schedule and opponent records and most importantly wins all have to be considered.
Clemson has a creampuff schedule. But they've been doing what they should to those creampuffs and no one questions that if they win out they're in.
For my money, I let a one loss conference champ in over a one loss non-conference champ every day. Those championship games have to matter all the time, or never...not selectively in an effort to cherry pick which teams pass the "eye test" which is better known as: totally subjective bias.
There are going to be multiple teams with one loss at the end of the year along with Bama vying for a spot, so yes, schedule and opponent records and most importantly wins all have to be considered.
Clemson has a creampuff schedule. But they've been doing what they should to those creampuffs and no one questions that if they win out they're in.
For my money, I let a one loss conference champ in over a one loss non-conference champ every day. Those championship games have to matter all the time, or never...not selectively in an effort to cherry pick which teams pass the "eye test" which is better known as: totally subjective bias.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:13 am to Porter Osborne Jr
GUMPS not to worry! If there is any chance Bama will make the CFP because they love to suck Saban's BALLS !!! 
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:31 am to bayou prince
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That's total bs. OSU lost 1 game last year and won the conference. THEY were left out because of a bad loss. It was the same thd year before.
They lost by 4 TDs
2014 Ohio State lost to 5-7 Virginia Tech at home they made the playoffs.
2016 Clemson lost at home to 6-6 Pitt they got in also.
So this isnt unprecedented
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:34 am to bigdawg7780
Great point.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 9:58 am to GurleyGirl
But, if Auburn routs Georgia and beats the snot out of Alabama? Crazy time.
LSU wins out and is crowned unanimous National Champions by "The Committee" making playoffs unnecessary, irrelevant, and redundant. LSU completely breaks college football in its final season as a putative amateur sport.
Multiple SEC officials, referees and crews do prison time after lengthy comprehensive investigations into pro-Alabama bias. Nick Saban retires with a Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep dealership chain in West Virginia. The Crimson Tide hire Bobby Petrino as head football coach with a multi year contract for eighty million because "he can win football games".
Sun sets.
Crickets chirp.
Fade to black.
Finis.
LSU wins out and is crowned unanimous National Champions by "The Committee" making playoffs unnecessary, irrelevant, and redundant. LSU completely breaks college football in its final season as a putative amateur sport.
Multiple SEC officials, referees and crews do prison time after lengthy comprehensive investigations into pro-Alabama bias. Nick Saban retires with a Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep dealership chain in West Virginia. The Crimson Tide hire Bobby Petrino as head football coach with a multi year contract for eighty million because "he can win football games".
Sun sets.
Crickets chirp.
Fade to black.
Finis.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:17 am to Buga
Who has Oregon or Utah beat this year? Bama is gonna beat the team that has given Oregon their one loss, which will be a better win than either one of those teams have
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:23 am to idlewatcher
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Wut? It’s commonly said by literally every fan base
Okay. How's this? It's funny how people harp about Alabama's weak schedule then throw it out when it suits them. Better? It doesn't change my point. besides...please don't try to sell that LSU and Alabama has a pretty heated rivalry going, so LSU fans mention it more than others. Add to that that there are more LSU fans on this site and...well, hopefully you get my point.
My post was not intended to cast a bad light onLSU fans so much as to point out that we change narratives to suit our agenda. Yes. All of us.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:27 am to Buga
LSU just needs to worry about beating Uga in the championship because the committee won’t be taking a two loss SEC champion, and your chances would be hurt with one loss and no SEC title. You all are not Bama and get a pass.
Posted on 11/16/19 at 10:28 am to cas4t
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potentially
Yes there is still a chance but not a guarantee.
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