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re: Auburn's recruiting ban that wasn't could further complicate the programs standing w/ NCAA

Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:02 pm to
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10528 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:02 pm to
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Your athletic department openly violating your own self imposed sanctions is literally the definition of a lack of institutional control


Per sources, they were additional restrictions imposed internally and not reported to the NCAA. The NCAA is out of scope, even if the sources are correct.

As you know, the school disagrees on record with those unnamed sources.

Lack of institutional control is your dream, but not reality.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 9:03 pm
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
2720 Arse Whipping Avenue
Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:04 pm to
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Find one from an Auburn fan supporting Yahoo or Pat Ford.

Now = Yoohoo bogus! Auburn fine!

Then = Yoohoo right! LSU funked!


Whale
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How
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Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5682 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:04 pm to
Sources are saying the NOA AU was expecting will include football.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21280 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:06 pm to
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As often as Auburn cheats, you'd think they'd be a lot better at it.

When was our last penalty, frickface
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:06 pm to
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Sources are saying the NOA AU was expecting will include football.
That's what I'm hearing as well.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10051 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:11 pm to
Is that a real “journalist?” I’m no Auburn fan but that reads more like a post from a rival fan on the rant.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:16 pm to
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However, can you get in trouble for not adhering to a self imposed ban that hasn't been submitted to the NCAA? Couldn't Auburn simply say...we didn't self impose anything.



The NCAA is not a court of law. Their sanctions are based upon the opinions of the infractions committee within general guidelines. If the committee finds that a Level I violation has occurred (clearly it did with Person's conviction), then the severity of the punishment depends upon how well AU can show mitigating factors. They might include a general culture of compliance, sincere efforts to stop the behavior once it was discovered, self imposed sanctions, etc. You are trying to show remorse, good behavior, and corrective actions in such a way as to convince the committee that harsh punishment isn't necessary.

If you impose your own internal sanctions and then can't adhere to them or impose sanctions in a way that makes it very easy to skirt them or reduce the meaningfulness of the sanction, then you are showing the infractions committee the exact opposite of a culture of compliance. A self imposed recruiting ban that has so many loopholes as to allow multiple instances of major recruiting activities is about as laughable to the committee as a self imposed bowl ban that has an exception for if the team is chosen for the playoffs. It shows a general lack of compliance sincerity that can only be corrected with harsh punishment.
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:17 pm to
Yahoo also claimed Bama was going down for multiple things that came out under Saban and the REC is steadily still at work.
Posted by Foy
Member since Nov 2009
3371 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:22 pm to
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The NCAA is not a court of law. Their sanctions are based upon the opinions of the infractions committee within general guidelines. If the committee finds that a Level I violation has occurred (clearly it did with Person's conviction), then the severity of the punishment depends upon how well AU can show mitigating factors. They might include a general culture of compliance, sincere efforts to stop the behavior once it was discovered, self imposed sanctions, etc. You are trying to show remorse, good behavior, and corrective actions in such a way as to convince the committee that harsh punishment isn't necessary.

If you impose your own internal sanctions and then can't adhere to them or impose sanctions in a way that makes it very easy to skirt them or reduce the meaningfulness of the sanction, then you are showing the infractions committee the exact opposite of a culture of compliance. A self imposed recruiting ban that has so many loopholes as to allow multiple instances of major recruiting activities is about as laughable to the committee as a self imposed bowl ban that has an exception for if the team is chosen for the playoffs. It shows a general lack of compliance sincerity that can only be corrected with harsh punishment.


I appreciate your effort, but nothing is going to happen little buddy. We sat the two players in question an entire season. Much more than any other program in the country implicated in the basketball sweep (including Alabama).

Pearl may sit a few games just for the NCAA to pretend like some kind of justice was served, but otherwise we gucci.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5682 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by Rabern57
Alabama
Member since Jan 2010
13363 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:26 pm to
We've all seen the real Bama when the NCAA rode their butts to follow the rules. They were about at Ole Miss level.
Posted by WilliamTaylor21
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Member since Dec 2013
35930 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:27 pm to
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They were about at Ole Miss level.

Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:29 pm to
Watching the AU/L8U cripple fight is always amusing.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5682 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by armtackledawg
Member since Aug 2017
11931 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:32 pm to
Everything Yahoo touches is trash
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48934 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:35 pm to
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Your athletic department openly violating your own self imposed sanctions is literally the definition of a lack of institutional control. Now the situation is much worse for AU.




Lol this is cute
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 9:46 pm to
Auburn did not sigh any Freshman to last years class (2017-18), that was by design and worked thru the NCAA. The writer is digging for an angle, but there is nothing there. Again, if nothing new comes up, the issue is closed for AU.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10528 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:02 pm to
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Now = Yoohoo bogus! Auburn fine!

Then = Yoohoo right! LSU funked!


None supported Yahoo or Ford. No bonus points since none supported Thamel.

I'm actually disappointed in your response.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10528 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:06 pm to
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Sources are saying the NOA AU was expecting will include football.


Your sources are known to be shite and you are mocked on this board because of it
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 8/11/19 at 10:08 pm to
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If you impose your own internal sanctions and then can't adhere to them or impose sanctions in a way that makes it very easy to skirt them or reduce the meaningfulness of the sanction, then you are showing the infractions committee the exact opposite of a culture of compliance.


I guess what's not being understood is that Auburn said they adhered to the their own self-imposed penalties. AL.com took a comment and falsely reported based on a lack of information....yahoo then ran with it.

I do believe Auburn will see some NCAA response for the Person issues, but I don't believe they will be bad.
This post was edited on 8/11/19 at 10:09 pm
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