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Auburn was 68-35 under Gus Malzahn
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:49 am
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:49 am
That's a winning percentage of right at 66%.
They had stability, they recruited well (until the last couple seasons), and they consistently gave their rivals trouble though didn't always come out on top. Nevertheless, Malzahn was a consistent 8-9 win coach who won the SEC and also came within mere seconds of winning a national championship.
Since they fired him after the 2020 regular season, Auburn has taken a nosedive into realms of mediocrity they have not seen since the 1970s. They are 28-36 since that fateful decision (a winning percentage of just 43%), have gone through three different head coaches, and haven't finished with a winning season since they fired the aforementioned Malzahn.
Now here in the latter half of 2025 they are watching as the roster Auburn built up over the last three years under Freeze - a roster that currently ranks 13th overall in the 247 Talent Composite - is starting to fall apart in the transfer portal.
My question to Auburn fans is: knowing what you know now, would you have pressured Auburn to keep Malzahn?
They had stability, they recruited well (until the last couple seasons), and they consistently gave their rivals trouble though didn't always come out on top. Nevertheless, Malzahn was a consistent 8-9 win coach who won the SEC and also came within mere seconds of winning a national championship.
Since they fired him after the 2020 regular season, Auburn has taken a nosedive into realms of mediocrity they have not seen since the 1970s. They are 28-36 since that fateful decision (a winning percentage of just 43%), have gone through three different head coaches, and haven't finished with a winning season since they fired the aforementioned Malzahn.
Now here in the latter half of 2025 they are watching as the roster Auburn built up over the last three years under Freeze - a roster that currently ranks 13th overall in the 247 Talent Composite - is starting to fall apart in the transfer portal.
My question to Auburn fans is: knowing what you know now, would you have pressured Auburn to keep Malzahn?
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:53 am to RollTide1987
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My question to Auburn fans is: knowing what you know now, would you have pressured Auburn to keep Malzahn?
firing malzahn wasn't the problem, he was never, ever going to win them a national title.
Their problem has been (going on 3 now) absolutely putrid hires afterward.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:57 am to RollTide1987
Barn’s problem is their absurd expectations and laughable impatience
They’ve fired 2 coaches in 1.5 seasons and 2.5 seasons
How are you ever gonna build a consistent program doing that? I bet Golesh is canned by 2028 as well because they are lunatics on the Plains
They’ve fired 2 coaches in 1.5 seasons and 2.5 seasons
How are you ever gonna build a consistent program doing that? I bet Golesh is canned by 2028 as well because they are lunatics on the Plains
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:58 am to RollTide1987
Malzahn had a better record at Auburn than Auburn has historically.
Overall they are 786-473-42. If we exclude the ties, their winning percentage is 62.45%. Malzahn was winning at 66.02%. And they FIRED HIM.
Overall they are 786-473-42. If we exclude the ties, their winning percentage is 62.45%. Malzahn was winning at 66.02%. And they FIRED HIM.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:58 am to WG_Dawg
Didnt Malzhan have them in the Natty game and barely lost to Oregon? No?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:59 am to RollTide1987
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My question to Auburn fans is: knowing what you know now, would you have pressured Auburn to keep Malzahn?
I was fine with Gus continuing. But fans don't have much say so. I know I don't.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 11:59 am to WG_Dawg
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firing malzahn wasn't the problem
He needed to go. The program had gotten stale and many of the bad seasons were head scratchers.
Our biggest issue is the lack of vision with our hires. Harsin was almost decent, but he was such an arrogant piece of shite who hated black southern athletes that he should have been nixed from consideration. Freeze had numerous red flags and everyone knew he was a sleazeball.
Gus though was a major disappointment. He seemed to have all the markings of a potentially great coach. He just couldn’t recruit or develop linemen and for some reason he refused to run the offense that gave him success early on.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:01 pm to Hawgleg
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Didnt Malzhan have them in the Natty game and barely lost to Oregon? No?
yes, which has less than nothing to do with his 2020 job status.
many coaches come out of the gates hot, especially if they run a unique system. Over time it gets figured out quickly which was the case with gus. In 2020, it was obvious he had no chance at leading them to a title.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:01 pm to Frac the world
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Barn’s problem is their absurd expectations and laughable impatience They’ve fired 2 coaches in 1.5 seasons and 2.5 seasons
Auburn’s problem is that they hired two historic flameout coaches in a row.
The fan support and portal money has been top tier though, as evidenced by highly recruited prospects choosing Auburn.
At a certain point the university can only set the coaches and players up so much, and they have to actually do their job and win football games.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:03 pm to Hawgleg
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Didnt Malzhan have them in the Natty game and barely lost to Oregon? No?
Auburn beat Oregon in the NC game with Gus as OC (2010 Season). Auburn lost to FSU in the NC game with Gus as Head Coach (2013 Season). Oregon has never won an NC.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:07 pm to RollTide1987
Never made the playoffs in 7 years as HC.
Losing records to both Bama and UGA
Recruiting tailed off his last couple of years.
He was there for a decade and had gotten stale however I bet they would take him back now if they could get 8-9 wins, but his shtick as coach has run its course.
Losing records to both Bama and UGA
Recruiting tailed off his last couple of years.
He was there for a decade and had gotten stale however I bet they would take him back now if they could get 8-9 wins, but his shtick as coach has run its course.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:08 pm to Frac the world
quote:I work with a half dozen auburn fans. They're always talking about auburn being an "Elite" Program, "as an Elite program", blah blah blah blah. An "Elite" program does not have a losing record against their rivals.
How are you ever gonna build a consistent program doing that? I bet Golesh is canned by 2028 as well because they are lunatics on the Plains
Alabama - Auburn 52-37-1 41.6%
Georgia - Auburn 65-56-8 46.3%
LSU - Auburn 33-24-1 42.1%
Not sure if LSU is considered a rival. Am sure that Bama and Georgia are their rivals.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:09 pm to Frac the world
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They’ve fired 2 coaches in 1.5 seasons and 2.5 seasons
How are you ever gonna build a consistent program doing that? I bet Golesh is canned by 2028 as well because they are lunatics on the Plains
Only 6 of 16 SEC coaches have more than 3 seasons at their team currently. Gus coached for 8 seasons. Kirby is the only coach that has been at their current team for more than 6 seasons.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:11 pm to RollTide1987
Im perplexed that they didnt hire Bill Clark(after Harsin) who was a perfect fit for Auburn. Sometimes a coach isnt flashy but just fits the right need at the right time(Stallings at Bama)
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:13 pm to RollTide1987
The dumbasses have John Cohen presiding over the worst stretch in Auburn football history and they are still in denial that he isn't a bad AD.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:15 pm to RollTide1987
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My question to Auburn fans is: knowing what you know now, would you have pressured Auburn to keep Malzahn?
No
Change had to be made for better or worse
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:21 pm to RollTide4547
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Georgia - Auburn 65-56-8 46.3%
Actually it’s 43%
UGA 66 - AU 56 w 8 Pat Ties
Auburn has us all beat in overall efficiency though. They have been #1 for 9 weeks cumulatively in their history with 9 natties to show for it.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:22 pm to RollTide4547
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An "Elite" program does not have a losing record against their rivals.
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Georgia - Auburn 65-56-8 46.3%
We've squandered away this record. It was tied in 2014. Georgia has owned Auburn hard for about 2 decades now.
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Alabama - Auburn 52-37-1 41.6%
From 1981 - 2020 (Pat Dye's first year until Malzahn's final year) the record was tied 20-20.
So I think we can say we can compete with the "Elite".
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:30 pm to mckibaj
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From 1981 - 2020 (Pat Dye's first year until Malzahn's final year) the record was tied 20-20.
So I think we can say we can compete with the "Elite".
It was made easier by the fact that Alabama was essentially on probation from 1995-2007. Auburn's rise in the early-00s was owed almost exclusively to Alabama coming just short of getting the death penalty over Albert Means in 2002.
Auburn was 9-4 during that period (1995-2007) and is 4-14 since then.
This post was edited on 12/30/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/30/25 at 12:32 pm to mckibaj
quote:Since we're picking years, how about 2007-2025? Were you "competing against the Elite" in those years? I'm seeing 14-5, that's 26.3%. That doesn't seem to be competitive with the "Elites" to me.
1981 - 2020
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