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re: Auburn May Add National Championships

Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:06 am to
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:06 am to
Damage control from losing championship game?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:07 am to
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The 1983 Auburn team got robbed that year


It doesn't matter if they did or not..in the end they were not the champs. I could say UGA was jobbed in the 01 postseason due to the fact we were 8-3 after the reg season, arkansas was 7-4, and we beat arky head to head..while they got to go to the cotton bowl while we went to to the music city. Should UGA claim a cotton bowl anyway? Of course not.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:07 am to
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So you agree then that AU claiming these title's would be along the same line's as Alabama.


Along the same lines of Bama's '41 title claim. Yes.

And nothing in the above quoted says anything about Notre Dame.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:08 am to
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Alabama could add another 10 if they used the same criteria. The pre-AP ones are all Rose Bowl champion teams. Other than 1941, all the post-AP champions were appointed by either the UPI or AP.


LOL no. Multiple SEC schools would add championships immediately using even conservative Bama criteria.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:12 am to
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As for 2004, there is no champion from that year currently recognized and Auburn is the only undefeated team from that year...so why not.


because that's not how things work. They didn't just hand the heisman over to vince young simply because reggie had to forfeit his.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:13 am to
Plus Oklahoma was the #2 team in the land going into the Orange Bowl that year. It stands to reason that, if anyone should get the '04 title, it should be the Sooners.

Posted by Dawgnational
Georgia
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:13 am to
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I think you mean 2004. Auburn DID win the 2010 National Championship. Cam Newton and all that.

In regards to 2004 - if USC forfeits, then Oklahoma, as the #2, gets the nod.



Your right I meant 2004. That is also a good point Oklahoma would get a nod over Auburn.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:15 am to
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It stands to reason that, if anyone should get the '04 title, it should be the Sooners


Yes, because they actually played in the national title game.

But auburn fans will tell you since they lost that AU should take precedence.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:15 am to
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because that's not how things work.


If the school decides to claim it, it does.


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They didn't just hand the heisman over to vince young simply because reggie had to forfeit his.


Heisman Trophys have nothing to do with national titles.

They are determined by the Downtown Athletic Club in NY and if they wanted to give it someone else, they could.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:15 am to
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your link even proves it.
quote:

No, it doesn't.


In your link can you tell me where the NCAA recognizes NC's? Now if you take a closer look, who is actually recognizing the NC
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:16 am to
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Plus Oklahoma was the #2 team in the land going into the Orange Bowl that year. It stands to reason that, if anyone should get the '04 title, it should be the Sooners.


Did they finish with a loss?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:17 am to
I love the SEC!
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:19 am to
quote:

But auburn fans will tell you since they lost that AU should take precedence


Sure...as the #2 team
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:20 am to
The 1913 years do as well.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:21 am to
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Auburn has always considered itself above the pettiness of claiming "false" championships.


I still do. I think y'all are retarded for doing it, and I think JJ is retarded for thinking about it.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:23 am to
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Did they finish with a loss?



To a team who turned out to be cheating. In the Olympics that usually means the gold medal goes to the runner-up. Since Oklahoma actually played in the game, the position of runner-up belongs to them.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:23 am to
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Damage control from losing championship game?


you're not the brightest bulb in the room, but t least you try.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24849 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:24 am to
I could give a rats arse about any NC's before I was alive furthermore I could care less about any that came before I was an Auburn football fan. From 1997 on, I have been through the lowest of the lows and highest of the highs. I don't need some totally ignorant "we were national champs 90 years ago!" BS to make me feel better about our team. Hell even the 57 is a "oh thats cool that they did that" NC to me.

Why do people gravitate towards this so much?
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:24 am to
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In the Olympics that usually means the gold medal goes to the runner-up.


This is not the Olympics.

quote:

Since Oklahoma actually played in the game, the position of runner-up belongs to them.


Runner up usually goes to #2...the silver medalist, right?
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 1/31/14 at 9:25 am to
I wouldn't claim 2004. I'd claim 1983, and 1993 is iffy. As for the others, i wasn't alive then so i'm not going to be so brash as to make a statement about something i know nothing about. I'll leave that to the bama fans to tell me why we shouldn't.

For the record, i'm not a fan of claiming any championships retroactively.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 9:28 am
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