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Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:09 pm to parkjas2001
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:09 pm to parkjas2001
I understand, broke it off allupenya and made the Auburn claims look childish vs. Bama's.
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Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:11 pm to Korin
I just came back to this thread at work after the morning meetings. I didn't expect 12 pages 
I wasn't alive for any shite prior to '87 so I don't give a frick what they do.
I wasn't alive for any shite prior to '87 so I don't give a frick what they do.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:15 pm to SamGinn Cam
1913 is the only legit one I see on that list they can claim with a straight face.
The others are all LOL to vary degrees, some fantastically so.
After decades of giving Alabama a hard time for claiming 2-3 dubious titles Auburn's going to try to claim like 6 of them?
Claiming these titles will make AU a national punchline.
Post the 1970's NOBODY claims anything other than the AP and Coaches poll, period.
The others are all LOL to vary degrees, some fantastically so.
After decades of giving Alabama a hard time for claiming 2-3 dubious titles Auburn's going to try to claim like 6 of them?
Claiming these titles will make AU a national punchline.
Post the 1970's NOBODY claims anything other than the AP and Coaches poll, period.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:16 pm to Aubie Spr96
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No playoff, no champion
That's what fans of teams with few NCs say?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:17 pm to IAmReality
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Claiming these titles will make AU a national punchline.
only during a real slow week.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:19 pm to SamGinn Cam
I'm glad LSU is above this bs.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:21 pm to GCTiger11
State of Alabama, 11 National Titles in the last five years. 
Haters
Haters
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:26 pm to bona fide
Stassen's 2014 preseason power poll:
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
20. Auburn
1. Bama
2. Oregon
3. FSU
20. Auburn
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:27 pm to Korin
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Do Auburn fans here realize that the same site y'all are using to justify these possible claims also has y'all FAR behind Alabama all-time?
the site has nothing to do with it. keep up
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:28 pm to WDE24
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Those Auburn claims are similar to a claim by a team that lost two conference games (was it MSU and Vandy?) and finished 20th in AP Poll (POLL ERA!11!!!)?
Yes. They are similar because everyone didn't just drop everything in 1936 when the AP started polling college football teams and anoint that particular poll as the end-all, be-all poll. It wasn't until 1950, when the Coaches Poll debuted with UPI, that the two polls became the gold standard.
There is a big difference in claiming a non-major poll title in 1941 as opposed to 1983, 1993 and 2004.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:32 pm to Korin
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Do Auburn fans here realize that the same site y'all are using to justify these possible claims also has y'all FAR behind Alabama all-time?
However thet want to slice it, measure it, or claim it, Bama still has more.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:34 pm to RollTide1987
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There is a big difference in claiming a non-major poll title in 1941 as opposed to 1983, 1993 and 2004.
of course there is. Bama fans set the standard of claiming championships
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:39 pm to NYCAuburn
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of course there is. Bama fans set the standard of claiming championships
Why even respond if you can't come up with an intelligent rebuttal?
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:41 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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S.E.C. Crazy
Can you get the 2014 National National championships tee shirts at your home town Wal-Mart? I'm sure you have at least one.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:44 pm to RollTide1987
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Why even respond if you can't come up with an intelligent rebuttal?
there isnt really one needed since bama fans have already determined which titles and criteria can and can not be used by other schools, most importantly Auburn. just like I stated
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:48 pm to NYCAuburn
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there isnt really one needed since bama fans have already determined which titles and criteria can and can not be used by other schools, most importantly Auburn.
Then you can't read if you think I am arguing that. I believe I have gone on the record several times on this board saying the 1941 title was bogus. I don't claim it. In my mind we have 14 national titles. But to sit there and say Auburn claiming a national title in 2004 isn't any different from Alabama claiming a national title in 1941 is bullshite. The Associated Press, as I stated above, wasn't elevated to its position as the end-all, be-all poll over night. It took about a decade and a half for people to really start elevating above all the others. That being said, Alabama claiming a national championship that year is just stupid.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:50 pm to RollTide1987
quote:In 1941, during the Poll Era, Bama lost 2 games, finished 3rd in their own conference and finished 20th in the AP poll. There is not a claimed national title that will ever rival that one in dubiousness.
There is a big difference in claiming a non-major poll title in 1941 as opposed to 1983, 1993 and 2004.
The biggest difference is there can be a kind of/somewhat reasonable argument made for AU claiming '83, '93 and '04, while there is no reasonable argument for Bama to claim '41.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:51 pm to RollTide1987
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Then you can't read if you think I am arguing that.
I can read quite well. you set the standard for what qualifies as a national champion and who doesnt
quote:. well there is a big difference between the two, Ill let you be the judge
Auburn claiming a national title in 2004 isn't any different from Alabama claiming a national title in 1941 is bullshite
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The Associated Press, as I stated above, wasn't elevated to its position as the end-all, be-all poll over night
and it still isnt the end all be all nor has it ever been
Posted on 1/31/14 at 2:52 pm to WDE24
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The biggest difference is there can be a kind of/somewhat reasonable argument made for AU claiming '83, '93 and '04, while there is no reasonable argument for Bama to claim '41.
There can't be a reasonable argument claimed for either one of them because not a single one of the teams you mentioned above (1941 Alabama included) finished #1 in a major poll.
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