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Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:16 am to magildachunks
Gus took us to the championship and 2 New Years Six bowl games. What did Orgeron do
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:17 am to ibldprplgld
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Unless I'm mistaken, this thread is regarding O vs Gus at their current respective schools.
I don't think that was ever specified
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:21 am to blzr
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Lsu fans are the dumbest people on Earth
Hey...they’re like a trillion + planets in the universe....we are at least smarter than a few million or so...
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:24 am to BHMKyle
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Yes. But also having to play Auburn twice
Who beat the dogshit out of Georgia, before Alabubba smoked their running back.
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Mississippi State
Decent this year, but not in the same stratosphere as having to play Bama, or even LSU.
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plus Notre Dame
Really? Notre Dame? The same Notre Dame who are projected as world beaters, pumped 10 spots in the polls, and has every commentator sucking one of them off every damn year?
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Those are four games against ranked opponents in addition to playing the SEC East. With those added to the Eastern opponents, it has been a very formidable schedule this season
Those were your games against ranked opponents this year. Division games were essentially a rest period. That's 6 weeks of rest, not counting the bye week. ETA: Of course, you did have to play App State, Samford, and 5-5 Georgia Tech, so, not a cake walk.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:25 am to magildachunks
O needs a better agent.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:36 am to BHMKyle
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Gus is worth the money, IMO. Right now there appear to be three proven coaches in the SEC: Saban, Kirby, and Gus.
These are the only three coaches with SEC Titles.
SEC Championships for Current SEC Coaches:
5- Saban
1- Smart
1- Malzahn
SEC Division Championships for Current SEC Coaches:
6- Saban
2- Malzahn
1- Smart
If all that really meant anything, Les Miles, Mark Richt and even Phil Fulmer would still be coaching in the SEC.
In reality, it's all about what have you done for me lately.
Gus beat Bama and had his team one game away from the playoff. That will get your contract extended at any SEC school not named Bama. Failing to beat Bama and/or have your team in contention in late November year after year after year will get you fired at UGA and LSU for sure.
All that said, I approve of the OP. It needed to be said.
I love the Barn so long as they recognize ain't gonna be no cigar smoking partying like it's 1999 in our house.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:56 am to hudjam11
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Gus took us to the championship and 2 New Years Six bowl games. What did Orgeron do
Have a special binder, hired overrated coordinators (who aren't even happy working for him), lost to Troy, but won the boot and had a decent season just because they are a in a recruiting hot bed and a historical good football program.
True honest opinion of Ed O and what he did this season.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:22 pm to thunderbird1100
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Gus does have a conference title, from 5 years ago. Ed O holds the H2H 1-0, though
Gus was never fired from Ole Miss.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:35 pm to BrerTiger
quote:Gus was skating thin ice at mid-season after the LSU loss. He redeemed himself with the Nov performance and getting to ATL.
Gus beat Bama and had his team one game away from the playoff. That will get your contract extended at any SEC school not named Bama. Failing to beat Bama and/or have your team in contention in late November year after year after year will get you fired at UGA and LSU for sure.
But he got that lucrative contract extension/raise because he had leverage and AU damn sure didn't want to get in a bidding war or have to fish around for a new football staff.
Gus held all the cards, thanks to his agent chumming the waters with the Arky threats before November when AU's team looked to be mediocre once again and Bert was drowning.
Jimmy Sexton at his finest. AU had to overpay for security and stability, and they were fine doing it once they looked at the shite show going on at Tennessee.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:45 pm to RT1941
Gus has tripped over his dick a few times since coming to AU. In 2013 and 2014 he had a team that could have won a NC. But for some reason he hired ElLis Johnson as his DC. In 2015 and 2016 he finally had the Defense that could have made him competitive at a National level, but he didn't have a decent QB. This year he finally had all the ingredients to win it all, but his play calling got in the way. AU didn't extend Gus's contract because their backs were against the wall, they did it because they sensed that Gus is close to figuring it out. It was worth the gamble.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:43 pm to troyt37
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Who beat the dog shite out of Georgia, before Alabubba smoked their running back.
Yes, Auburn beat us badly in Jordan-Hare. Then we turned around and beat them. You can't count one and not the other.
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Decent this year, but not in the same stratosphere as having to play Bama, or even LSU.
Mississippi State smoked LSU and took Bama down to the wire. When they were healthy, State had a very good team this year. Yet Georgia destroyed them.
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Really? Notre Dame? The same Notre Dame who are projected as world beaters, pumped 10 spots in the polls, and has every commentator sucking one of them off every damn year?
Yes, the Notre Dame team that is ranked #14 in the nation... the team that beat #8 and PAC12 Champ USC by 35 points... the team that beat #18 Michigan State by 20 points... the team that beat #24 NC State by 21 points.
Notre Dame has three wins against the Top 25 that were all by 20 points or more. You can knock the fact that Notre Dame has historically been overrated, but having faced 6 of the CFP Top 25 teams in a season and going 3-3 in those games shows their ranking this season is completely warranted.
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hose were your games against ranked opponents this year. Division games were essentially a rest period.
Are you talking about the same SEC East that was a perfect 2-0 against the your own Arkansas Razorbacks?
South Carolina beat Arkansas by 26 points.... Georgia beat South Carolina by 14 points.
Missouri beat Arkansas by 3 points... Georgia beat Missouri by 25 points.
Is the SEC East the weaker division? Of course. But the SEC East still produced some fairly decent opponents:
South Carolina, Missouri, and Kentucky are all going to bowl games. Georgia beat those teams by 14, 25, and 29 points, respectively.
You can keep knocking Georgia's resume if you want, but you are only making yourself look silly.
Beating 3 bowl-eligible SEC East teams by an average of 23 points... and beating #7 Auburn, #14 Notre Dame, and #23 Mississippi State on top of that is a dang good resume. To try to argue otherwise is just stupid.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:50 pm to magildachunks
One has won the West a couple of times. The other has finished third in the West with arguably the second most talent in the SEC.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:11 pm to BHMKyle
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Yes, Auburn beat us badly in Jordan-Hare. Then we turned around and beat them. You can't count one and not the other.
Never suggested that, only that the outcome is likely very different if Alabama doesn't take out their RB.
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Mississippi State smoked LSU and took Bama down to the wire. When they were healthy, State had a very good team this year. Yet Georgia destroyed them.
I said Mississippi State was decent. Not much more. Hell Arkansas played them close, and we were a steaming pile all year.
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Yes, the Notre Dame team that is ranked #14 in the nation.
So, you acknowledge that they should be ranked in the 20's somewhere, at best. They may have played their first decent schedule ever, and lost three times to ranked teams, but if you're Notre Dame, that's still good enough for #14.
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Beating 3 bowl-eligible SEC East teams by an average of 23 points... and beating #7 Auburn, #14 Notre Dame, and #23 Mississippi State on top of that is a dang good resume. To try to argue otherwise is just stupid.
If you say so, I guess. I think Georgia is the Boise State of this playoff, and most likely gets their shite pushed in by Oklahomo.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:12 pm to magildachunks
shite happens, didn't have the horses to finish out the toughest 4 week schedule ever. Going 3-1 isn't half bad. I'll claim a moral victory, whatever you'd like to call it, don't really care.
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:18 pm to AUsteriskPride
Gus is an 8-4 type coach who will make a run once every few years when he can find a good QB to transfer in. He hasn't developed a single QB he's signed yet. When he doesn't have a great QB, his system folds like a cheap suit.
Auburn paying him elite money is such an Auburn move. Gonna owe that cat a ton of money when they have to fire him in 3-4 years.
PSA to all Auburn fans....Gus didn't win the 2010 title. Chizik was the coach and a future pro-bowl QB won that thing. Gus was along for the ride. And he still hasn't won a ring as a HC.
Auburn paying him elite money is such an Auburn move. Gonna owe that cat a ton of money when they have to fire him in 3-4 years.
PSA to all Auburn fans....Gus didn't win the 2010 title. Chizik was the coach and a future pro-bowl QB won that thing. Gus was along for the ride. And he still hasn't won a ring as a HC.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:31 pm to troyt37
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Never suggested that, only that the outcome is likely very different if Alabama doesn't take out their RB.
Kerryon Johnson played against Georgia. Was he at full strength? No. But surely him being hampered was not solely responsible for a 45-point swing in just 4 weeks. Georgia adjusted and had a better game plan the second time around. And we won. Handily.
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I said Mississippi State was decent. Not much more.
Well that's your problem. You also claimed they were "no Alabama or LSU." Yet you conveniently forget that State smoked LSU and led Bama for the majority of the game.
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So, you acknowledge that they should be ranked in the 20's somewhere, at best.
No. I think Notre Dame coming in around #14 is exactly where they should be. Here are their opponents this year:
#3 Georgia- Lost by 1 point
#8 USC- Won by 35 points
#10 Miami- Lost by 33 points
#13 Stanford- Lost by 18 points
#16 Michigan St.- Won by 20 points
#24 NC State- Won by 21 points
With a record of 9-3... 3-3 against the Top 25... then #14 looks just about right for the Irish.
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I think Georgia is the Boise State of this playoff, and most likely gets their shite pushed in by Oklahomo.
Okay if you say so. Nevermind the fact that Georgia beat as many quality teams this season than Boise beat during the entire Petersen era... you just go right along thinking that.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:35 pm to tider04
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Gus is an 8-4 type coach who will make a run once every few years
That's Auburn, AU has always been that way. No reason to break continuity when there is great potential with Stidham coming back for two more years. The money isn't an issue, the extra paid to Gus in the extension was money not expected even two years ago.
Gus has run a clean program, no NCAA issues, most players stick around and graduate, and he kicks players off the team that are bad for AU, regardless of their talent. Sure, AU and Gus are fun for this board to pile on, I get it, but he's been more successful against the best coach maybe ever than anyone else in the conference, and that includes those that have been fired. AU came up just short this year, but frick, regardless of what AU did this board would still make these threads. If AU let him walk, it would be "LOL, Auburn chose not to keep a coach that beat two #1 teams in 3 weeks, LOL".. You get my point.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:37 pm to magildachunks
Why is LSU so broke that they care about saving money at the most important position they pay for?
Do you want to give granny an aluminum hip replacement because titanium costs more, as well? How stupid can swamp kittens be?
Do you want to give granny an aluminum hip replacement because titanium costs more, as well? How stupid can swamp kittens be?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 2:39 pm to five_fivesix
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beating Alabama
LSU doesn't know anything about that.
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