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re: Auburn faithful...do you miss the steadiness of Tuberville?

Posted on 11/1/15 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 7:34 pm to
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to me the title is pretty worthless


Good way to think as a Clemson fan. You won't ever have to worry about those worthless NC's.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 7:46 pm to
Considering we saw the exact same play in Bama v Ole Miss this year as we did in AU v UGA how crazy can it be? Especially compared to entire college history.


And a FG return for a TD is not crazy, just rare because they are not missed inbounds. Gatech return was much more crazy because it required a block first.


Holy insecurity, Batman. My post was supportive of AU, idiot.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38764 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 7:47 pm to
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Tubs was a dead man walking for years because of his relationship or lack thereof with the good ol boys running AU back then.


He got in bed with the GOB when he left Ole Miss for Auburn. The GOB bought that damn pine box he traveled in from Oxford to Auburn. He knew what those GOB were all about and he gladly took their money. Complaining later about how poor ol' Tubs was mistreated by the GOB falls on deaf ears here.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16865 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:03 pm to
Ohio state probably wouldn't trade.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:23 pm to
No
Posted by Tigers of War
Ewor
Member since Aug 2013
1376 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:37 pm to
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lsu is the ONLY team in america who is even in the same zip code as bama whether it's results over 10 years or 5



LSU vs Alabama record
Alabama leads 49-25-5

Auburn bs Alabama record
Alabama leads 43-35-1

So basically you're just either making shite up or you're so delusional you actually believe what you type. Either way you're wrong.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:41 pm to
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Tigers of War
did you even bother to actually read my statement? i said 5 or 10 years. and you go drag out the whole history of everything. and criticize me with juvenile insults. good job genius.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
10785 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:43 pm to
Not reading 10 pages to see if this has been posted

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steadiness


Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
7901 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 8:52 pm to
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RandySavage


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Were you around in 2004? That was a better season than any coach coaching in the SEC right now has ever had.


This is an interesting subject. I only read the first two pages but had to respond to this. I respect the hell out of that '04 Auburn team that got screwed. But this is absolute delusion. Disregarding the fact that AU was left out of the big game, you still cannot argue that '04 Auburn had a better season than '09 Alabama. Both teams had a couple close games, but the schedule Bama played was FAR more difficult than Auburn's. And Bama was far more dominant in those games than Auburn was.

In '04 AU beat the #5,8,9,10,15 teams in the country (23rd toughest schedule in the country per teamrankings.com. If you know of a more established source that has data going back that far, feel free to provide. You will not see much respect for that schedule).

In '09 Bama beat the #1,2,7,9,20,22 teams. (most difficult schedule in the nation per Team Rankings.

Bama was also the first 14-0 title winning team in major college ball. Bama had a Heisman (which I don't consider much of a credit to the season but y'all build statues for those so I include here. Bama absolutely annihilated a Florida team that was at the absolute peak of an SEC dynasty: Tim Tebow's senior year, team was totally loaded with Meyer's recruits, clicking on all cylinders. In '04 Auburn didn't beat anyone in that universe. Also I will add that Bama was coming off of an undefeated regular season. They didn't slip under the radar for most of the season.

Again, nothing but respect for '04 Auburn, but that post was just absurd.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/1/15 at 10:06 pm to
this "deserves" to be posted here too

has there ever been a team that has more misconceptions about it than lsu. prevalent memes

miles wins on talent alone
miles is a terrible game/clock manager
lsu "backed" into '07 ncg
lsu "shared" '03 title
lsu is "about equal to" program X (other than bama)
lsu win=opponent sucked. lsu loss=lsu finally played a good team
21-0 overshadows win in bds
miles can't develop qb's
miles doesn't utilize talent correctly
miles is basically larry coker
miles IS STILL winning because of saban

do you knuckleheads realize you are to this day perpetuating basically every one of these ridiculous notions and that they undermine the sec and your own team? you don't feel the slightest bit of stupidity for this?
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34749 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 6:56 am to
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In '04 AU beat the #5,8,9,10,15 teams in the country


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In '09 Bama beat the #1,2,7,9,20,22


Yea that's not much difference really at all. Especially when you consider the #2 team you beat didn't have their QB.

ETA: A quick fact check shows you beat 5 ranked teams not six.

Also, Auburn dominated every team they played except Alabama and LSU so I'm not sure how bama was "FAR more dominant". 04 UGA wasn't 09 Florida but they were a top 5 team loaded with senior talent and Auburn destroyed them.

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Bama had a Heisman (which I don't consider much of a credit to the season but y'all build statues for those so I include here.


We had two running backs that were better and a 1st round NFL QB who was also SEC POTY. We also had the nations #1 scoring defense.

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Also I will add that Bama was coming off of an undefeated regular season.


Yea, you shouldn't have added that because it's irrelevant.

Aside from the LSU game which was in early September no team ever had the ball in the 4th quarter with a chance to tie or take the lead vs. Auburn. D-O-M-I-N-A-N-T

Alabama had 5 such games and even trailed in the 4th to Auburn, VT, and LSU.
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 7:03 am
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34749 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:09 am to
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miles wins on talent alone


Not true, though they are stacked that's part of the coaches job and can't be held against him.

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miles is a terrible game/clock manager


Are you actually arguing this? He seems to have gotten better but my God his first 6-7 were a joke.

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lsu "backed" into '07 ncg


True.

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lsu "shared" '03 title


True.

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lsu is "about equal to" program X (other than bama)


Since the beginning of Miles tenure there are several programs LSU is about equal to. Bama isn't one of them because they are so far away.

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lsu win=opponent sucked. lsu loss=lsu finally played a good team


Agree here, this is just dumb message board talk but it happens to every team.

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21-0 overshadows win in bds


Well, it does.

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miles can't develop qb's


In a decade he's produced one good QB and he was a JUCO. He's never recruited a successful high school QB. (I know the same can be said for Gus).

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miles doesn't utilize talent correctly


Would disagree here. He might have trouble maximizing his talent because of lack of production from the QB position though.

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miles is basically larry coker


Disagree here though Miles never reached the heights of Coker he has obviously sustained his program much better. Though to be fair Coker was too old to go for very long.

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miles IS STILL winning because of saban


I don't think anybody still says this but he did walk into a golden situation but that's not his fault. He kept the train on the tracks a lot better than a lot coaches who have also walked into great situations.
Posted by BoomNation
wetumpka. alabama
Member since Feb 2015
2099 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:18 am to
nope contrary to popular belief the majority of us were glad to see coach tubs go. it was getting annoying to hear every year around this time Is. coach tuberville going to be the new hc of Nebraska. Arkansas. A&M. LSU. Miami. etc just so he could get a big fat raise for himself and the rest of the bbq gang
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 7:21 am
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:21 am to
UF was not hitting on all cylinders. The offense was the worst under Meyer due to Addazio. UF just out talented everyone else and never really dominated anyone except uga
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
29467 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:24 am to
The difference now is that having a reliably very good to great defense most years takes away a lot of variability with how you end up performing. It keeps you competitive and masks other deficiencies (see LSU having an okay season last year with that horseshite offense). It remains to be seen if this happens with Gus at the helm since I think it's somewhat of as cultural aspect of a football team, but I still think it's likely with Muschamp at DC.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:58 am to
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RandySavage
randy, i wish i could help you. that list is examples of ridiculous things that short sighted, misinformed fans say and have all been debunked many, many times. yet, you agree with almost all of them, SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED IN THIS VERY THREAD. dang. i don't think you realize how sad this situation is. if you're not willing to consider how bad your perception is (i.e. understand how dumb all those things are), you should consider dropping football for something else.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52352 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 7:59 am to
I'm probably the biggest Aubie basher there is but it was time for Tubbs to go.


He had gotten lazy and too loyal to assistants that needed to go. Aubie made the right move firing Tubbs.


Now, everything after that has been a shitshow but Tubby had to go.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
34749 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 8:58 am to
You're right Les Miles has never F'd up the clock at the end of a game, USC doesn't have a national title trophy from 2003, LSU is pumping out star QBs, there was totally no good fortune involved in being the only 2 loss national champion in college football history, there are no other programs who can touch LSU's incredible achievements of two conference titles and a BCS title since Miles took over, 9-6 is totally what everyone remembers about 2011 and not 21-0.

It really is mind blowing that you have convinced yourself your arguments make any sense whatsoever.

This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 9:00 am
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 9:14 am to
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it's not like they had an lsu/bama type season where they just straight up beat everyone.


If by "straight up beat everyone" you mean losing to Kentucky & Arkansas but winning then national title, then ahhh, yeah I guess you are right.
Posted by CousinEDDIEEEE
Member since Oct 2015
215 posts
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:22 am to
What is your definition of luck?
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