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re: Auburn continues to take more top kids from instate
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:57 pm to captdalton
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:57 pm to captdalton
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You would have been better off just asking someone for a hug than whatever this is.
LOL. There is nothing that gets bama fans (who likely didn't even go to Bama) more roused up than pointing out Auburn has become far superior academically... that and when the average salaries gets posted.
(Those things are both related by the way)
Posted on 8/20/26 at 3:59 pm to AUTiger789
Nothing I post could make Auburn look worse than this thread already has.
Congrats?
Congrats?
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:02 pm to captdalton
Auburn’s averages:
Acceptance rate: 46%
ACT: 29
GPA: 4.10
Top 10% HS Class: 35%
Median Earnings 10 years after graduation: $73k
Alabama’s averages:
Acceptance rate: 71%
ACT: 26
GPA: 3.85
Top 10% of HS Class: 23%
Median Earnings 10 years: $59k
Alabama does, however, tend to attract higher end students at a higher rate than Auburn. They give a lot of scholarships and had over 350 national merit finalists in their recent freshman class.
Acceptance rate: 46%
ACT: 29
GPA: 4.10
Top 10% HS Class: 35%
Median Earnings 10 years after graduation: $73k
Alabama’s averages:
Acceptance rate: 71%
ACT: 26
GPA: 3.85
Top 10% of HS Class: 23%
Median Earnings 10 years: $59k
Alabama does, however, tend to attract higher end students at a higher rate than Auburn. They give a lot of scholarships and had over 350 national merit finalists in their recent freshman class.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:04 pm to AUTiger789
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Auburn took 564 kids from those 8 high schools
Wow, so about 200 more "smart Alabama kids" enrolled at Auburn compared to Bama?
You have a total enrollment close to 30,000, so this is less than 1% of your student population.
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It's a hell of a better flex than bragging your school took more kids from the worst high schools from one of the worst states for education.
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but I'd venture to guess that Alabama has more kids enrolled from "Yankee states" with better education systems than Auburn.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:06 pm to paperwasp
And they don't even have basketball anymore.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:10 pm to AUTiger789
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There is nothing that gets bama fans (who likely didn't even go to Bama) more roused up than pointing out Auburn has become far superior academically
Unfortunately for Auburn, academic superiority rarely translates to wins in athletic competitions (you know, aside from Auburn getting bullied by Yale
).Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:12 pm to StringedInstruments
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They give a lot of scholarships and had over 350 national merit finalists in their recent freshman class.
You are correct about that.
Bama's students are basically an agglomeration of the following:
5% very smart, highly rated students out of high school that Bama pays for everything in order for them to come there.
60% out of state kids mostly from New Jersey, Illinois, and the like who just want to party and then move back home after graduation
20% small town kids from poor areas of the state who are average students but the pride of the country town they come from because they are headed off to a 4-year college and that's a big deal for that town.
The balance comes from the urban and suburban areas of the state. Decent kids from decent families but the stereotype is usually kids who want to party more than get an education.
It's not a bad place. But the above stereotypes are very real and whether fair or not, there are a lot of kids that grow up bama fans and want nothing to do with attending the University of Alabama for those reasons.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:23 pm to StringedInstruments
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Median Earnings 10 years: $59k
We have sororities filled with beautiful women who are stay-at-home moms within a decade. Ergo, their earnings are zero.
Sorry all your chicks from Notasulga are ugly.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:47 pm to AUTiger789
Yeah. Bama is a backup school behind Ole Miss.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:50 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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Wow, so about 200 more "smart Alabama kids" enrolled at Auburn compared to Bama?
No. Auburn took 210 more kids from just 8 high schools ranked as the Top 8 in the state.... and 424 more kids from just the 20 high schools ranked in the top 20. If you keep going to the Top 30, Auburn takes 491 more. Yet Alabama took more instate kids overall, so only when you finally hit a point where you get to the really poor high schools does the trend reverse.
But it doesn't stop there. Superior kids attract other superior kids. A buddy of mine from Brentwood in Nashville told me Brentwood high is sending 15 kids to Auburn... he said 5 were going to Bama.
You see the same thing from metro Atlanta... Auburn gets more kids than Bama from the better high schools up around Marietta and Alpharetta as well as the top private schools like Lovett, Pace, and Whitefield.
You pile all this on top and it makes a difference.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:04 pm to AUTiger789
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You pile all this on top and it makes a difference.
In what? Online academic rankings? We have no idea if the students from those "great" schools were at the top of their class or the bottom, so what do your stats even mean?
It's sad that Auburn fans are now more concerned with qualifying for the College Bowl than an actual bowl game
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:21 pm to AUTiger789
If you took the time to look....
This is true for virtually every state that has the traditional Flag/Ag set up between two major state schools.
The Flag school always has a larger enrollment of out of state students from a percentage standpoint and the Ag school usually has a larger in state percentage.
This is true for virtually every state that has the traditional Flag/Ag set up between two major state schools.
The Flag school always has a larger enrollment of out of state students from a percentage standpoint and the Ag school usually has a larger in state percentage.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:25 pm to Gunga Din
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The Flag school always has a larger enrollment of out of state students from a percentage standpoint and the Ag school usually has a larger in state percentage.
Well if you took the time to read this thread, you'd realize this isn't at all what we're talking about.
1. You are incorrect, Bama took more instate kids than Auburn last year (similar totals but slightly more).
2. Auburn took a bunch more kids from the highest rated high schools. This is the point of the thread.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:27 pm to AUTiger789
So Auburn generates little interest outside of its immediate vicinity.
Good to know.
Good to know.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:39 pm to skrayper
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So Auburn generates little interest outside of its immediate vicinity.
Umm, no. 78% of applications last year were from outside the state... Auburn just accepted a small portion of them unlike Bama who takes anyone with a pulse.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:44 pm to AUTiger789
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1. You are incorrect, Bama took more instate kids than Auburn last year (similar totals but slightly more).
I mentioned that it was by percentage...Not total number of students. And it wasn't a shot at Auburn. Just that the Ag schools usually recruit better in state than the Flag schools do. In Alabama it looks like they are about even.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:51 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
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We have no idea if the students from those "great" schools were at the top of their class or the bottom
No we don't. But if Auburn is taking 46% more kids from Mountain Brook + Vestavia Hills + Homewood.... aka the most affluent areas of the entire state... it's fair to say Auburn will likely have an ever-increasing presence in the area of the state that produces the most high earners.
This disparity has been going on now for 15+ years. Eventually it adds up. That translates into donations to the school, contributors to NIL, etc.
Auburn is simply attracting more highly educated, more affluent instate kids. It's just a fact. And that has repercussions.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:59 pm to Gunga Din
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Just that the Ag schools usually recruit better in state than the Flag schools
No worries. I get that is typically the case, but this isn't what's going on at Bama and Auburn.
Auburn had a larger overall enrollment and the two schools had very similar in-state/out-of-state ratios throughout the 1970s, '80s, '90s, and early 2000's.
In about 2006, Alabama decided to accelerate their enrollment at a breakneck pace, and because the state of Alabama isn't growing all that fast, they did it with out of state kids mostly from outside the South. Bama went from 70% instate and an 85% Deep South enrollment to less than 40% instate and a near majority of kids from outside the South in less than a 10-year period. It's completely disrupted their culture and it's backfired with a ton of instate kids who don't want to go to a college that feels like an episode of Jersey Shore.
As a result, Auburn and Alabama went from being pretty much equal in terms of academic rankings and acceptance rates to Auburn being way more selective and higher rated.
Bama is trying to reverse course but it's not as easy to put the toothpaste back in the bottle.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:09 pm to AUTiger789
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more affluent instate kids. It's just a fact
Absolutely not.
Auburn is attracting more in-state kids from schools that are "ranked higher" in Alabama. This means they're likely on scholarship, so it's impossible to determine how affluent they may be.
Alabama is attracting more out of state kids who are paying out of state tuition.
Therefore, even if you want to argue the Auburn freshman families are more affluent (which is impossible to determine), Alabama is attracting an overall more affluent freshman class because they have more out of state kids who are paying significantly higher tutitions.
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And that has repercussions.
And what are those!?
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 6:10 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:19 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
The repercussions:
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