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re: Auburn admin seems to have unrealistic expectations

Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by SBC
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:21 pm to
Same issue for Texas A&M. No matter what they do, they will never outrun the shadow of big brother Texas.
Posted by Marktastic86
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:22 pm to
Why would anyone be obsessed with Auburn?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:23 pm to
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Why would anyone be obsessed with Auburn?

That's a good question. But the fact remains that several SECR posters are. Just look at the Auburn threads on the front page. The poster in question in particular.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted by C Nite
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:23 pm to
No one is.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:23 pm to
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the shadow of big brother Texas.


As a former resident of Austin, that shadow isn't as long as it used to be. Interested to see what Sark can do in the next few years.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:28 pm to
AU has been on the cusp of being an elite program over the last 30 years, but the coaches they have hired could not build on their success. AU is located in one of the most fertile recruiting locations in the country, AU has a large fan base and alumni with a lot of money. It is a school that is recognized for its quality of education, however all those coaches have never been able to sustain success for long periods of time. Gus is a prime example, in 2014 AU had been to the BCSCG 2 out of the last 4 years, yet he goes an banks the program on a QB who he thought was the answer and only trusts himself to train him. It all goes back to who you hire as a coach and how much ego they bring with them. AU has hired too many up and coming coaches and have gotten what they have paid for. We will see with Harsin if the trend continues.
Posted by p&g
Dixie
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:29 pm to
Which you’d think beating Alabama would be enough.
They certainly do that more than LSU as of late
Posted by C Nite
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:30 pm to
Auburn has never been on any cusp of being elite and never will be.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12537 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:31 pm to
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That's a good question. But the fact remains that several SECR posters are. Just look at the Auburn threads on the front page.


Equating casual interest in your in-state rival's program and the questionable hires/moves they seem to be making with obsession seems like a stretch.

Personally, it interests me to watch a fanbase that I know very much loves their team deal with a coaching change that was immediately followed by a relatively awful recruiting class. Most don't seem to be very excited about the next few years.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Auburn has never been on any cusp of being elite and never will be.



Really, three undefeated seasons by three different coaches the last 30 years ?
Posted by C Nite
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:33 pm to
You have ONE Natty to show for it and that Natty was severely scrutinized with the $cam stuff.

One Natty every 50 years isn't remotely elite.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:34 pm to
Cool story little bro
Posted by RT1941
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Tubs was very successful. His records trended down a couple years then followed up w/a double-digit win season

Tuberville was done and he quit. Similar to Gus. He wasn't recruiting nearly well enough to stay on the field with Alabama. He was stubborn and refused to part with his friends. He was 5-7 in his final year
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We let the players have a gimme year, why not coaches?

Because the coaches are getting paid (and overpaid) millions of dollars. Players are student athletes. Really no comparison.
Every last bit of this is true.

Auburn was paying top 5 salaries and the staff couldn't consistently chalk up a top 10 ranked team a the end of every year. Auburn's Admin fricked up with Gus one-sided contract extension in '17 and had to buy him out to the tune of $21.6mm + $5mm to Steele + the remaining staff buyouts.

No one can be expected to pay out the arse for mediocrity.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
12537 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Auburn has never been on any cusp of being elite and never will be.


The AL.com Aubs used to swear AU was a CFB blue blood. But elite programs usually put up consecutive 10 win seasons more than once in a 40 year span.
Posted by C Nite
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Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:36 pm to
I remember those fricking morons. Auburn got fed and fat off of Alabama’s probation riddled program. Once that short period of time ended, ORDER WAS RESTORED.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21282 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:38 pm to
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Equating casual interest in your in-state rival's program and the questionable hires/moves they seem to be making with obsession seems like a stretch

Wrong. The individual in question is white on rice every time he sees "Auburn" in a thread title. And he's started his fair share of shite threads about us too.
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Most don't seem to be very excited about the next few years.

Not sure who you are talking about. I think most of us are cautiously optimistic about our future and glad to be done with the Malzahn years, although we will be dealing with the aftermath, good or bad, for a couple of years.
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But elite programs usually put up consecutive 10 win seasons more than once in a 40 year span.

You don't really believe that, do you? You think we've had one 10 win season in 40 years? FYI, we've had 11 of them in the last 40 years. Our biggest issue has always been producing them back-to-back.


This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 1:47 pm
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:38 pm to




This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:40 pm to
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I remember those fricking morons. Auburn got fed and fat off of Alabama’s probation riddled program. Once that short period of time ended, ORDER WAS RESTORED.



No, Bama got fat and got caught and made itself a probation riddled program. Logon Young was the MVP of the program for years until he got caught.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21282 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:40 pm to
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The AL.com Aubs

Well, there was your first problem. I used to post there in the late 200.s and that place is a cesspool.
Alabama is the only Blue blood in football in the SEC. Anybody who says otherwise is fooling themselves.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21282 posts
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:42 pm to
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Personally, it interests me to watch a fanbase that I know very much loves their team deal with a coaching change that was immediately followed by a relatively awful recruiting class.

And the the awful recruiting class you speak of was BEFORE the coaching change and a big part of why it happened. I'm very pleased with the work Harsin did to keep it together and also add to it. But it is what it is when you make a change in December for the most part.
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