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Auburn admin seems to have unrealistic expectations
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:28 pm
Reviewing the records over the past coaches Tubs, Chiz & Malzahan, the guys had OK records until their last year when they only won 5, 3 & 6 games, respectively. All other years were 8 to 10 wins seasons. '04 & '10 they went undefeated and '13 played in the NC. '08 & '12 were only years from 2000 they missed a bowl game.
Make no mistake I pull for Bama, but changing coaches after basically one bad year is screwball. I fricking hated Tuberville but Chiz came in an won a NC with Cam & Tubs recruits. The boosters and admin are wacko.
Make no mistake I pull for Bama, but changing coaches after basically one bad year is screwball. I fricking hated Tuberville but Chiz came in an won a NC with Cam & Tubs recruits. The boosters and admin are wacko.
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Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:29 pm to Bama2020
Forever in Alabama's shadow. Forever little bro.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:30 pm to Bama2020
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one bad year
Gus was there for 8 years. He had more than one bad year.
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I fricking hated Tuberville but Chiz came in an won a NC with Cam & Tubs recruits.
Yep. And Gus did it with Chizik recruits. Tubs was no longer getting it done. Gus was no longer getting it done. Chizik totally lost the team.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:31 pm to Bama2020
Which of those coaches do you see being successful if we kept them?
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:33 pm to Bama2020
Rent free
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:39 pm to Bama2020
Bammers have a once-in-a-generation coach and are in the middle of a unprecedented run. Yet, who is on their mind? There are a half-dozen threads about Auburn on the front page started by bammers. It would really be an interesting study into the psychology of this phenomenon. I suspect insecurity is at the root of it.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:39 pm to Weagle25
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Which of those coaches do you see being successful if we kept them?
Tubs was very successful. His records trended down a couple years then followed up w/a double-digit win season. IMO firing coaches the Covid year is fricked up. We let the players have a gimme year, why not coaches?
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:43 pm to Bama2020
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Tubs was very successful. His records trended down a couple years then followed up w/a double-digit win season
Tuberville was done and he quit. Similar to Gus. He wasn't recruiting nearly well enough to stay on the field with Alabama. He was stubborn and refused to part with his friends. He was 5-7 in his final year
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We let the players have a gimme year, why not coaches?
Because the coaches are getting paid (and overpaid) millions of dollars. Players are student athletes. Really no comparison.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:45 pm to tgrmeat
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Bammers have a once-in-a-generation coach and are in the middle of a unprecedented run. Yet, who is on their mind? There are a half-dozen threads about Auburn on the front page started by bammers. It would really be an interesting study into the psychology of this phenomenon. I suspect insecurity is at the root of it.
Honestly the point I'm making applies to several programs. Bama has been guilty too and has been it's worst enemy in the past by picking coaches that were former Bama players. Bama could have hired Bobby Bowden or Howard Schnellenberger during a couple previous coaching searches. Instead, we hired Ray Perkins, Mike DuBose and Bill Curry.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:45 pm to Bama2020
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Tubs was very successful. His records trended down a couple years then followed up w/a double-digit win season.
Was
Then he quit recruiting. So we see rival fan bases on here the past few days talking about how one class ranked 20th is going to be our downfall while you’re sitting here saying we should keep a guy that would rather go hunting than recruit.
I like Tubs but it was time to go.
Chiz went 3-9. There’s zero excuse for going 3-9 at Auburn but it was also about more than that year. Outside of 2010 we got our teeth kicked in consistently under Chizik. Not just losing but losing bad.
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IMO firing coaches the Covid year is fricked up. We let the players have a gimme year, why not coaches?
You have to be trolling. Tell me with a straight face that if Bama had a mediocre coach they would give him a gimme year for any reason.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:46 pm to tgrmeat
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Bammers have a once-in-a-generation coach and are in the middle of a unprecedented run.
We have talked Alabama's greatness to death over the last dozen years. How much more can we say? Have they coined any new adjectives recently that we can use to describe the greatness of Alabama football?
Time for other topics.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:47 pm to Bama2020
For anyone doubting us firing Malzahn, let me ask you this.
If you're current coaching staff had not signed an OT out of high school since 2017, and still didn't have one in this recruiting class, and continued to try to plug that hole with middle of the road juco/transfer guys, would you be ok with that?
He continued trying to run an offense that was becoming less and less successful, so without quality OL, it was going to be even worse over the next few years.
Our AD went out and got a coach that can actually develop players, specifically QB, which Malzahn was known for not being able to do.
Will he win big? That's the be seen, but the way Malzahn was going, it was only going to get worse.
If you're current coaching staff had not signed an OT out of high school since 2017, and still didn't have one in this recruiting class, and continued to try to plug that hole with middle of the road juco/transfer guys, would you be ok with that?
He continued trying to run an offense that was becoming less and less successful, so without quality OL, it was going to be even worse over the next few years.
Our AD went out and got a coach that can actually develop players, specifically QB, which Malzahn was known for not being able to do.
Will he win big? That's the be seen, but the way Malzahn was going, it was only going to get worse.
This post was edited on 2/4/21 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:51 pm to Bama2020
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Tubs was very successful. His records trended down a couple years then followed up w/a double-digit win season.
Fun story(not really).
Good buddy of mine worked in the athletics dept during that time and said in Tuberville's last year, he had to be reminded of players names when he'd meet with them. This wasn't just for new guys at the beginning of the year, which would have been inexcusable anyway, but throughout the entire year for a good part of the team.
He mailed it in on the field and in recruiting and it was time.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:03 pm to kage
quote:Pretty much.
Good buddy of mine worked in the athletics dept during that time and said in Tuberville's last year, he had to be reminded of players names when he'd meet with them. This wasn't just for new guys at the beginning of the year, which would have been inexcusable anyway, but throughout the entire year for a good part of the team.
He mailed it in on the field and in recruiting and it was time.
Let’s be honest, he was never more than a just-slightly-above-average HC. His best coaching job was his second year at AU, when he took a bunch of 2- and 3-star guys (with one legit stud at RB) to the SECCG. In 2004 he basically got our of the team’s way and let Borges & Chiz manage the Jimmies & Joes (who, to be fair, were all highly regarded). We had the talent to win it all in ‘05 and ‘06 but underperformed, then Bama hired Saban and our window of opportunity was slammed shut.
The fact that he stumbled through the rest of his career at TT and Cincy tells you all you need to know. He’ll be a just-slightly-above-average Senator too.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:08 pm to Bama2020
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The boosters and admin are wacko.
How is this different from any other SEC school? Your BOT is such a bastion of morals. I remember the 80's when they ran off a president who was trying to improve academics, along with the 10 win football coach who didn't want to cheat.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:10 pm to kage
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said in Tuberville's last year, he had to be reminded of players names when he'd meet with them. This wasn't just for new guys at the beginning of the year, which would have been inexcusable anyway, but throughout the entire year for a good part of the team.
He mailed it in on the field and in recruiting and it was time.
Considering what you have seen out of Tuberville as a Senator, are you really surprised?
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:10 pm to Bama2020
I argued ad nauseam about the subject of coaching continuity with a Missouri fan last evening. Auburn came up but they aren’t really in the boat that I think is the root of competitive imbalance in college football.
Gus had 8 years. It was getting stale and recruiting was faltering. However, you’ve got to make a decision as to whether a gamble on the new guy is worth it. You know what you have with Gus. He’s going to win 8 games most years. If the next guy is a bad hire, you’re very quickly Tennessee or Nebraska.
Gus had 8 years. It was getting stale and recruiting was faltering. However, you’ve got to make a decision as to whether a gamble on the new guy is worth it. You know what you have with Gus. He’s going to win 8 games most years. If the next guy is a bad hire, you’re very quickly Tennessee or Nebraska.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:14 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Speaking of Tuberville...
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U.S. Sen. Tommy Tuberville declined to comment on the controversy surrounding a north Georgia congresswoman under fire for believing the country’s deadliest school shooting was a hoax -- along with other conspiracy theories -- because recent severe weather has prevented him from reading the news, according to a report published Tuesday. “I haven’t even looked at what all she’s done,” Tuberville, a Republican, told CNN about Republican congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, Business Insider reported. “I’d have to hold back a statement on that. Travel in this weather it’s been a little rough looking at any news or whatever.”
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:17 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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you’re very quickly Tennessee or Nebraska.
Tennessee is a better comparison than Nebraska. I believe Tennessee has been the victim of bad coaching and bad administration. I think Nebraska has really been their recruiting.
There's always a risk when you change coaches. As you said, Gus was always good for 7-8 wins and his floor was relatively high. But it was looking like things were about to take a turn down, just looking at the last recruiting class. It was time to move on and take a chance.
Posted on 2/4/21 at 1:17 pm to C Nite
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Forever in Alabama's shadow. Forever little bro.
You seem a little AUbsessed.
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