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re: aTm will be better next year without JFF

Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:10 pm to
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Oh, your little school is Alabama or LSU now is it?

Okay, first off, A&M is nearly bigger than both LSU and Alabama combined.

Secondly, what are you saying? Are you saying that LSU and Alabama are good every year SOLELY because of the name on the front of their jerseys?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:10 pm to
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Why do you always act like an arse?


OH FFS
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:15 pm to
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Secondly, what are you saying? Are you saying that LSU and Alabama are good every year SOLELY because of the name on the front of their jerseys?


No, I'm saying they have better coaches, and at this point, superior talent.

What reason, as a somewhat unbiased observer, am I to believe that A&M will be improved without JFF? How does a legendary-bad defense become an asset? How does a team losing its best three players (by far) not only sustain success, but get better immediately?

Listen, it could happen, but if you told me Auburn would play for the title last year, I'd say that was stupid, and I'd generally be right. I'm not trying to take away your hope, I'm just ridiculing what'll probably prove to be a fantasy.
Posted by DRE06
Houston
Member since Feb 2013
399 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:17 pm to
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Oh, your little school is Alabama or LSU now is it?

2012 recruiting (Rivals, 247)
A&M #15, 16
LSU #18, 14

2013 recruiting:
LSU #6, 9
A&M #11, 9

2014 recruiting:
A&M #5, 3
LSU #6, 4

Avg:
A&M #9.85
LSU #9.3

Yes, it appears that A&M is right there with LSU from a talent perspective.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:18 pm to
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OH FFS

Yes, for frick's sake. You are talking out of your arse, just like everyone else who automatically assumes that A&M will suck on offense without JFF, Evans, and Matthews. It's almost as if you assume that there will only be 8 players on the field and the center will snap the ball into thin air.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86364 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Yes, it appears that A&M is right there with LSU from a talent perspective.


I doubt it. Perhaps soon, but I don't think I'd make that assessment now, and I don't think you would either.

A&M is recruiting at a good pace, but next year will be the opportunity to exhibit the talent you've built up.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:20 pm to
Change takes time.
We're in the process of putting the infrastructure in place.
Good stuff occurring--in all facets of our program (donations, coaches, marketing, eyes on TVs, recruiting, new construction, etc.).
I see us as a 4-loss team next year; but in 2015 ... look out.
Posted by storey979
Member since Jul 2013
285 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:20 pm to
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You'll see a very balanced attack on offense coupled with a much improved defense.

I think aTm challenges for the West next season and I'm being completely serious.




You totally redeem yourself.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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3338 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:21 pm to
You are forgetting that talent has to be developed. LSU has shown that they can consistently develop talent over a long period of time. I don't doubt that A&M can develop offensive talent. Let's see if the defensive talent is properly developed.
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:26 pm to
Sumlin always has great offenses. I wouldn't expect this to suddenly change regardless of players leaving. I think what you might see is an above average unit perhaps lacking the star power of 2013. However, still being a great unit overall.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86364 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:28 pm to
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Yes, for frick's sake. You are talking out of your arse, just like everyone else who automatically assumes that A&M will suck on offense without JFF, Evans, and Matthews. It's almost as if you assume that there will only be 8 players on the field and the center will snap the ball into thin air.


"Oh FFS" that I get a "why are you so mean" comment from an Aggie.

As for the substance of your argument, scrutinize it yourself. Think about JFF/Evans/Matthews this year. Were they not absolute keys to the team? Were they not similar to what Cam and Fairley were to Auburn in 2010? Auburn went from 13-0 to 8-5. Mind you, you still lost 4 games, and now you're moving forward without the keys to your offense.

So, fandom and projections about 18 year old QBs aside, why should I believe you'll be better than that this year?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:30 pm to
Absolutely, AdamDeMamp.
No question at all that that's our Achilles Heel right now.
And no one realizes it more than Coach Sumlin.
It's the reason why LINK ]happenings like this are so important for our program.
We'll get there.
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:33 pm to
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"Oh FFS" that I get a "why are you so mean" comment from an Aggie.

I couldn't care less about your manners.
Trust me--my life is complete, regardless.

I was just making the observation that you shite on an overwhelming majority of the threads in which you post, rather than ever engaging in a conversation.
No big deal.

This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86364 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:34 pm to
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I was just making the observation that you shite on an overwhelming majority of the threads in which you post, rather than ever engaging in a conversation.


I'd say more like 50%. And your boy Soze is at least at 75%
This post was edited on 1/16/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:34 pm to
Fair enough.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:42 pm to
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Listen, it could happen, but if you told me Auburn would play for the title last year, I'd say that was stupid, and I'd generally be right. I'm not trying to take away your hope, I'm just ridiculing what'll probably prove to be a fantasy.

Except you weren't right. I was. I said all along that Auburn had excellent talent, despite the 2012 effort, and would be much improved if Malzan could make use of that talent. I didn't buy into the "No Cam, Aubie Sucks" argument, and I was right. I knew because I pay attention to recruiting evaluations and rankings, which are not perfect, but usually a pretty good indicator of talent on a team. Any time the talent is there, any team, regardless of the name on the front of their jersey, has a shot. More importantly, we're not the only team in the nation losing our best players. Other programs, including LSU and Alabama, will be replacing players.

Why do some of you consistently note A&M's losses and ignore everyone else?

Alabama loses McCarron. He was the ONLY player on their team, right? What's LSU gonna do without Mett? Auburn should just give up after losing Tre Mason to the draft.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46957 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 2:44 pm to
Nope
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86364 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 3:07 pm to
Come on, Auburn is the very rare exception. Arkansas is the rule. I don't think you'll go winless or anything, but why should anyone who isn't a TAMU homer have faith in a bunch of unproven guys who haven't been asked to do very much? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you follow TAMU athletics closer than we do, but for the same reasons you're going to be more optimistic about guys who we've got little info on.

The Alabama/AU/LSU comparisons are silly. Those are three good players, but I don't think any compare to what A&M is losing. Moreover, I don't necessarily expect any of those teams to be better next year.

In the end, my position is the reasonable one, in that I don't expect TAMU to be better. Maybe all these young guys are just world beaters, but if you were a sportswriter voting in a poll, where would you put A&M? I'd probably put them low in the top 25, which is where you'd expect a 4 loss team to sit.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 3:08 pm to
It's much easier to troll rivals than to think critically when it comes to football, tbh.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
11122 posts
Posted on 1/16/14 at 3:09 pm to
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I don't think you'll go winless or anything, but why should anyone who isn't a TAMU homer have faith in a bunch of unproven guys who haven't been asked to do very much?


You shouldn't have any. It won't stop us from trying to convince you otherwise all off season though
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