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re: At this point, how many of you would take Les Miles as your coach?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:26 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:26 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Google says Reed was a flex player under dinardo with a grand total of 8 catches
Dinardo moved Reed later in the year in 1999 - thanks to Josh Booty's recommedation.
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:31 pm to Chimlim
I thank and respect Saban. But he's at a school that we have to play yearly so frick him.
Don't get why Bama fans think LSU fans should feel otherwise.
and here is a fact for all of you. Watch the Saints after two games without Sean Payton. If you think that talent alone is all that is needed well you are a maroon. Les is a Top 2 coach pretty much and any "fanbase" other than Bama that says they wouldn't take Les is a fool
Don't get why Bama fans think LSU fans should feel otherwise.
and here is a fact for all of you. Watch the Saints after two games without Sean Payton. If you think that talent alone is all that is needed well you are a maroon. Les is a Top 2 coach pretty much and any "fanbase" other than Bama that says they wouldn't take Les is a fool
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:33 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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GTFO, the talent on hand when saban got there wasn't even close to the talent miles inherited. Everyone knows it you just enjoy being a contrarian. Sure LSU has always had talent, but miles inherited a team that was talented 3 deep across the board. Y'all hate admitting what saban did for Lsu. The best players in louisiana in the 90's were going all over the place, FSU-Miami- Notre dame etc. Saban got there and put a fence around the state and made Lsu a national brand. Maybe miles could have done the same, who knows..but I think there are a lot of coaches that could have gotten the Lsu job when saban left and be doing just as well as Les is doing
Your partially correct about SABAN bringing us to elite powerhouse status but your not completly factual with that comment. It's true what you said about us losing players left and right out of state until 1995. That was a landmark year for the Tigers when Dinardo got here and kept Kevin Faulk in the state.
After this, Dinardo brought in a NSD event every year and began KEEPING the best players in state. Don't believe me? Check the recruiting class of the mid to late 90's and check how much talent was Dinardo's when SABAN won his first SEC Champ in 01. Dinardo missed a couple elite players, but hardly any, hell Miles still can't quite keep everybody in state.
Yes, SABAN did take us to another level, but he was given alot more then BAMA fans would like to admit when he got to LSU because it doesn't fit the complete narrative.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:34 pm to townestoldme2
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he has the easiest job in college football.
lot of people say this. Ask Curly Hallman how easy the lsu job was
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:40 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:you're missing the forest for the trees. The op asked if you would take miles. Conventional wisdom says miles is the village idiot. Yet, he can hang with the best despite pedestrian qb play. But it's apparently easy to win the toughest conference with luck and some talent
A game won by 3 points (they both were) can be decided on one or 2 plays. Obviously no one got "out coached" in a 3 point game between equal teams.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:40 pm to townestoldme2
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he has the easiest job in college football.
Yeah, that Florida or the Georgia job with all that talent sucks!
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:44 pm to BuckeyeFan87
quote:let's try again. If there were an opening at osu, would you want miles? Forget about who is currently the coach or who was the coach or what osu has done in the past.
BuckeyeFan87
For funsies, explain why you wouldn't since you seem to be leaning towards no
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:47 pm to LSU GrandDad
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Teams stacked with talent go 3-8 all the time
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it damn sure wasn't the talent that resulted in that record. why do you think dinardo got canned? ever heard of lou tepper? teams get demoralized and mail it in. look what arkansas has done the last 2 games. i know you worship saban as a god and that is your right; but you really aren't knowedgable about LSU football. you just assume we were garbage before saban arrived. i have been watching LSU football for 50 frickin' years
Here's a fun fact people forget, After Dinardo was canned for going 2-8 and losing to Houston in 99. Guess what interim coach Hall Hunter did against one of Arkansas better teams of the 90's and ranked #17? Whooped their arse 35-10. Your right though, they wern't stacked with talent and shitty coaches that year.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:53 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Half of you act like you don't know what the word more means. I said he inherited more and the Lsu fans got their panties in a wad. Saban had josh reed so boom! Yea whoopty fricking do. Les miles inherited a better team than nick saban. That's what I said, that's what the truth is, like it or not
2008 #1 Alabama #11 LSU
2009 #1 Alabama #2 LSU
2010 #5 Alabama #6 LSU
2011 #1 Alabama #6 LSU
2012 #1 Alabama #18 LSU
Awww...the #1 recruiting ranking T-shirts from the past few years scream less talented teams? And yet, Saban vs Miles = 3-3. Let's ignore the facts and say Miles is just a lucky bum...maybe it's in the grass he eats.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 1:58 pm to That One
so recruiting rankings matter or they do not, which is it? An hour ago it was base talent off a players college career and now you're telling me their high school career is the indicator. Recruiting rankings are a crap shoot by men that would be professional scouts if they were great at it. They're employed because people in the south love to follow recruiting, myself included.
Miles inherited more talent than saban. That's my only point. No other motive, that's just my only point. I've said in this very thread he's a great coach, I just pointed out he inherited more talent. I won't waiver from that so if you think you can convince me otherwise give it your best shot spraky.
Also, if you're trying to prove me wrong with recruiting rankings then the only ones you need to look at are LSU's from 1996-2006
Miles inherited more talent than saban. That's my only point. No other motive, that's just my only point. I've said in this very thread he's a great coach, I just pointed out he inherited more talent. I won't waiver from that so if you think you can convince me otherwise give it your best shot spraky.
Also, if you're trying to prove me wrong with recruiting rankings then the only ones you need to look at are LSU's from 1996-2006
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:01 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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An hour ago it was base talent off a players college career and now you're telling me their high school career is the indicator.
I said that. You are consistently taking different people's arguments and attributing them to the wrong person while you act like the person you are responding to is being inconsistent. Please stop doing that. I realize like 9 people have rushed to correct your fabrications, but it makes you look dishonest when you do that.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:03 pm to therick711
I'm speaking to the fanbase, not an individual.
I can't keep track of all you frickers
I can't keep track of all you frickers
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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so recruiting rankings matter or they do not
They are an indication of talent...no?!
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Miles inherited more talent than saban
You keep saying that as if they played each other with the same set of players all the 6 years!
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I won't waiver from that so if you think you can convince me otherwise give it your best shot spraky.
It's your problem.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I can't keep track of all you frickers
I understand. I just don't like it when people say well YOU just said X so you are a LIAR!!!
To clean it up, my point was the Saban Miles talent thing is over blown because Saban inherited many players from Dinardo who were some of the best to ever play wearing the purple and gold. Their records still hold up today in the Saban talent new normal that you posit. So Saban doesn't have the market cornered on finding talent.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:09 pm to That One
Saban sure lost a lot of games here at LSU that he should have slam dunked & few more on the last play of the game. I thought I read somewhere..not on the rant..that his record in games decided by 7 points or more was not that good? And that is where great coaches should shine. But as an old timer, I am biased. Why don't we bring in the Miami media for their comments??
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:14 pm to Keltic Tiger
I think Saban is exponentially better at alabama than he was at lsu. Just my opinion. He was great at Lsu but I think he's even better at bama. Coaches should progress to
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:15 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I think Saban is exponentially better at alabama than he was at lsu. Just my opinion. He was great at Lsu but I think he's even better at bama. Coaches should progress to
I agree and that's what is impressive about Miles' record against him.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:18 pm to That One
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You keep saying that as if they played each other with the same set of players all the 6 years!
This is my point (and has been for the past hour) you tell me if you agree or disagree. Lsu 1-105 when les miles arrived >> Lsu 1-105 when nick saban arrived?
That's what I and websters define as inheriting.
That's not a knock on anyone or a compliment to anyone, it's just pointing something out. Les Miles has a crystal football. Gene Chizik and Larry coker are the only bad coaches with one of those
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:20 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I think Saban is exponentially better at alabama
far better coach now than he was then
just a fact. and he wasn't near "bad" here so don't take it the wrong way
but clearly he learned from his past mistakes
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:21 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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the only bad coaches with one of those
troll. go suck Nicks penis like you know you really want to
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