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re: At this point, how many of you would take Les Miles as your coach?
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:22 pm to That One
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:22 pm to That One
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I agree and that's what is impressive about Miles' record against him
I wold venture to say that les miles has improved more as a football coach in his time at lsu than saban has in his time at alabama. I don't think he's as good..but if you were to make a graph showing improvement it would favor miles.
miles went from a 13 to a 19 and saban from a 16 to 20, to put a fictitious number on it from a 1-20 scale
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Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:24 pm to stapuffmarshy
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troll. go suck Nicks penis like you know you really want to
That's not a troll. I don't think Gene Chizik and larry coker are good football coaches. GFY
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:26 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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That's not a troll. I don't think Gene Chizik and larry coker are good football coaches
nah dude not letting you slink out of that one.
You included Miles in that threesome. Get some lighter fluid and bath in it and then smoke something
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:27 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I think Saban is exponentially better at alabama than he was at lsu. Just my opinion. He was great at Lsu but I think he's even better at bama. Coaches should progress to
They pay their players a lot more at Bama. Just look a the recruiting rankings. Miles has to coach his players up. How much coaching does it take from Saban to improve #1 or #2 ranked classes every year? Those Bama Boosters are doing one heck of a job.
Saban's coaching in last year's regular season game sucked. Don't take my word on. Go back and read the post game articles written.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:32 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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This is my point (and has been for the past hour) you tell me if you agree or disagree. Lsu 1-105 when les miles arrived >> Lsu 1-105 when nick saban arrived?
If that's your point in a discussion comparing the caliber of two coaches TODAY, that's where your fundamental problem is.
There is no doubt that...
LSU today > LSU in 2000-2005 > LSU before 1999
Saban today > Saban 2000-2005 > Saban before 2000
That said, Saban has become the measuring standards of college coaching greatness these days (I'm CREDITING him here). And, then when you throw Miles' record against him with both fielding equally talented teams (though the recruiting gurus give the edge to Bama), it is hard for many to fathom that he's not too far behind Saban. That is, if 6 years is a good time frame for comparison!
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:36 pm to stapuffmarshy
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nah dude not letting you slink out of that one.
You included Miles in that threesome. Get some lighter fluid and bath in it and then smoke something
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Les Miles has a crystal football. Gene Chizik and Larry coker are the only bad coaches with one of those
Why don't you lower your shield and read that again. If you must, scroll back a page and see that it's unedited
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:38 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Why don't you lower your shield and read that again. If you must, scroll back a page and see that it's unedited
I did. Mis-read
but in my defense Im posting alot today
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:39 pm to That One
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If that's your point in a discussion comparing the caliber of two coaches TODAY, that's where your fundamental problem is.
That's the thing...I wasn't debating the coach they are today. I said something about miles inheriting more talent and people came out of the woodwork to point out all of the talent saban inherited, while I never said saban didn't inherit some talent I just said miles inherited MORE talent. People got pissy about that
Posted on 9/19/12 at 2:40 pm to stapuffmarshy
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I did. Mis-read
but in my defense Im posting alot today
happens to the best of us
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:28 pm to bfniii
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let's try again. If there were an opening at osu, would you want miles? Forget about who is currently the coach or who was the coach or what osu has done in the past.
I've clearly already stated that I would not want him. Would he be a bad hire? Absolutely not.
But, he's
A. A Michigan man
B. Done a lot of questionable play calling(yes, every coach has, but this is based on personal preference, and mine would be for another coach)
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:36 pm to AlaTiger
Its a coin flip between JLS and Miles
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:39 pm to BuckeyeFan87
quote:let's try again. If there were an opening at osu, would you want miles? Forget about who is currently the coach or who was the coach or what osu has done in the past.
BuckeyeFan87
For funsies, explain why you wouldn't since you seem to be leaning towards no
Posted on 9/19/12 at 3:51 pm to bfniii
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I've clearly already stated that I would not want him. Would he be a bad hire? Absolutely not.
But, he's
A. A Michigan man
B. Done a lot of questionable play calling(yes, every coach has, but this is based on personal preference, and mine would be for another coach)
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:03 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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Done a lot of questionable play calling
a lot? is one a season considered alot? if so...could you name 8 questionable calls he's made?
don't mean to put you on the spot...but i hate when people say he's made "a lot" of questionable calls. its a myth. i can think of a few questionable calls and a lot of gutsy ones. there's a difference
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:16 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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Its a coin flip between JLS and Miles
Let's see......... One inherits a team ranked in the Top 10 and loaded with 17 returning starters, and it only takes him 3 weeks into the season to tale his team out of the Top 25, get beat by ULM, and get blown away by Bama 52-0. No question this one will be fired at seasons end without winning anything of value for his team.
The other takes a loaded team ranked in the Top 20 and is in his 8th season coming off his 2nd SEC Championship, 3rd SEC West title, has his team currently ranked #2 in the country, has won 11+ games 5 times out of his 7 seasons, finished in the Top 5 4 times out of his 7 seasons, and has played for 2 National Titles winning one of them.
Yep, they are clearly just a coin flip apart.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:18 pm to Choctaw
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a lot? is one a season considered alot? if so...could you name 8 questionable calls he's made?
don't mean to put you on the spot...but i hate when people say he's made "a lot" of questionable calls. its a myth. i can think of a few questionable calls and a lot of gutsy ones. there's a difference
Let me take a stab at it:
Fake Punt from 8 in his first game at ASU
Fake Quaterback wham throwback against Auburn in 2007 on game winning drive. It worked (only because Keiland made a helluva play) but was an insane call in that spot and honestly should not have been called.
Tunnel Screens during the 2 minute drills of the following games:
Ole Miss 2009
Penn State 2009 (technically 2010 bc of bowl season)
HB Swing during the 2 minute drill against Arkansas 2009 (only not an unmitigated disaster because Ridley "got out of bounds")
Fourth down on last possession against Auburn 2010 burned a timeout and still didn't have a good play
Not going for two against Auburn in 2007 after D Byrd score
Sitting Chuck the Truck against UK in 2007
Letting J Lee throw to open OT in 08 Bama game
Halfback draw against UGA in 2009. It worked but was absolutely the wrong, half-baked call.
Going for two against UF in 2010.
UT 2010 debacle (bailed out because they have Dooley lulz).
Mismanaged timeouts in 2009 (well documented)
Those are a few off the top of my head. Love him, but there is a basis to say questionable play calling.
This post was edited on 9/19/12 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:21 pm to therick711
about half your list is complete shite. thanks for posting anyways
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:22 pm to Choctaw
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about half your list is complete shite. thanks for posting anyways
Which half? I'll see if I can come up with more.
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:23 pm to Choctaw
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about half your list is complete shite. thanks for posting anyways
TIGAH FIGHT!
this is like the TR
Posted on 9/19/12 at 4:24 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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TIGAH FIGHT!
this is like the TR
I know! I don't usually get to debate Choctaw.
He generally knows his stuff, though.
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