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re: At some point you may have to have a covid vaccine to enter a sporting event?

Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by Hellmet
Member since Nov 2015
590 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
7422 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:35 pm to
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They don't work (the "vaccine" nor the masks). The data clearly shows that now. In fact, the "vaccinated" people have become incubation chambers for the variants surfacing now.


It's difficult to be this wrong.

The vaccines work, as the data shows, to not only make it harder for you to get infected and spread covid, but if you do catch it, it makes the symptoms far less severe.

The new variant is a direct result of lack of vaccinations. Viruses change over time and replicate as they spread from host to host. The longer they are around and the more they replicate, the more likely it is that they form a variant. If we had more people vaccinated, the virus would have a much harder time of replicating.

The same people that bitch about masks and vaccines are the reason we have to wear masks and have businesses shut down. They're just too stupid to realize that.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4064 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:37 pm to
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the vaccine is clearly effective and safe.
It's not old enough for anyone to be 100% positive it's safe.
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there can be no explanation other than a political one
Or, it could be be that there's no long term safety data.
Posted by Tackle74
Columbia, MO
Member since Mar 2012
5420 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:43 pm to
Good, get the damn shot already you fricking tards.
Posted by Bobbum Man
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
943 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:44 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 4:55 pm
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
3922 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:47 pm to
Once the dems admit they stole the election I will... Unless you guys think that lying > human lives
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
4064 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:51 pm to
I didn't write that.
Posted by Bobbum Man
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
943 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:54 pm to
My bad, inadvertently replied to the wrong post.

See, I'm a f***ing idiot too.
Posted by Bobbum Man
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
943 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:55 pm to
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The same people that bitch about masks and vaccines are the reason we have to wear masks and have businesses shut down. They're just too stupid to realize that.


See, even taking you at your word, do you think calling people stupid is going to make it more or less likely that they do what you want them to do? Forget this entire argument for a second, in what world does that make sense?

It’s actually an important question, because it can shed some light on if your motivations are truly to help people, or to simply feel superior to them.

I definitely know that when I want to persuade someone of something, I make sure to call them stupid first. If I REALLY want them to do something, I call them a f***ing idiot. It makes sense if you don’t think about it.
This post was edited on 8/3/21 at 4:56 pm
Posted by jdevers
Member since Nov 2008
2066 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 4:59 pm to
We aren’t talking about essential industry, we are talking about watching a football game.
Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
975 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:02 pm to
They are sick.
Posted by Bomont
Member since May 2021
975 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:03 pm to
Yeah Autism is a conspiracy theory. GTFOH.
Posted by MackDaddyBrown
Member since Jul 2021
3922 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:06 pm to
Outlaw obesity (main comorbidity) and ill get on board (less competition in the SEC)
Posted by peepingcrxxms
Sumrall, MS
Member since Aug 2016
848 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:13 pm to
I agree that not getting vaccinated isn’t smart but the reason we “have to wear masks and shut down” is because our leaders are pussies. There is a vaccine that is available and it works. If you want to risk it then fine. Risk it. That’s on you. Forcing everyone to wear a mask or places to shut down at this point is the dumbest shite someone could possibly do. Trying to protect people that don’t want your protection at the expense of others is ridiculous.
Posted by Bobbum Man
Texas
Member since Jul 2021
943 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 5:14 pm to
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Trying to protect people that don’t want your protection at the expense of others is ridiculous.


And it always, and I mean always, ends up creating more serious problems than the one it intended to solve.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 6:10 pm to
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The new variant is a direct result of lack of vaccinations. Viruses change over time and replicate as they spread from host to host. The longer they are around and the more they replicate, the more likely it is that they form a variant. If we had more people vaccinated, the virus would have a much harder time of replicating.



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It's difficult to be this wrong.




For starters, that virus mutates constantly and has from the start. They identified 30 different strains in the first month, and it just kept going from there. But some strains are more common than others, and those are the most common strains.

Furthermore, it is not a direct result of a lack of vaccinations.

Vaccinations are not a force field. They do not prevent the virus from entering your body, they do not prevent the virus from ever multiplying. They do provide your body the ability to fight back. And your body will, but it's not instant. During that time someone who is vaccinated can still have the virus mutate within them and they can still pass it on.

And that is likely a major reason why the cases are increasing. Vaccinated people are spreading it, thinking they are clear because they are vaccinated. Not the case.

What the data does seem to support is that the vaccine helps your body fight it off faster.

Beyond that, you're just repeating bullshite and it has no basis in science or any understanding in our immune systems. You're just saying shite you want to be true.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 6:20 pm to
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However, literally every piece of literature I’ve seen from every even borderline legitimate academic scientific source says the vaccine is clearly effective and safe.


This is not true. If it was true, the vaccine companies wouldn't need protection.

You ever see those lawyer commercials where they are like - did you or a loved one take this pill and later had these complications? If so, you can sue the piss out of them.

100% of those people had those pills prescribed by their doctors, they likely even got FDA approval, and so on.

In this case, you will never see such a commercial for these vaccines, because no matter what happens, they made it illegal to sue them.

So when the people who make it aren't willing to back their product, that says a lot more than any "piece of propa...literature".

And what do you mean it has to be political?

Have you considered: People who already have covid and thus have natural immunity? Why do they need a vaccine? Their body has already developed what it needs to fight the vaccine naturally once, and still has that same code.

So why do they need the vaccine? I had chicken pox as a child. Do I need to get he chicken pox vaccine now as an adult? No. Because I have natural immunity.

Ok and how about the risks of younger healthier people? Are you saying that there is 0 risk with the vaccine? If so you are wrong. It's a small risk, but not 0. So now you have something that 99.8% of people survive, and if you break it down by age group it's much lower. There is a point where it really doesn't make sense. It's all risk for 0 reward.

What you mean to say is - your opinion is politically based, and thus everyone who thinks otherwise must be as well.




Posted by McMillan
Member since Jul 2018
6921 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 6:38 pm to
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My neighbor at 59 died of covid.
Yea it scares me.


I understand.

I'm trying hard to get those who are close to get the shot.

At least they're wearing masks.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30735 posts
Posted on 8/3/21 at 6:44 pm to
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At least they're wearing masks.


If you really care, have them social distance.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
46898 posts
Posted on 8/4/21 at 7:48 am to
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I don't see what everyone is so scared about. This is no worse than a severe cold or a mild case of the flu. I've had flu much more severe than this.


I've had colds that were worse. It really wasn't that bad.
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