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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:53 am to
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:53 am to
I know. It's totally stupid.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:53 am to
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He's fine for now. The question comes in games, if he hasn't been declared eligible by the NCAA by the start of the season, any games he plays in are subject to being vacated.


If I'm aTm, I roll with it. It's not like you're winning anything of importance without Manziel. I'd play the odds the NCAA doesn't have anything that will stick and play him. Sure you may have to vacate some games, but if you could have played him but didn't....
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:54 am to
just cruised over to texags... there's a thread about Uncle Nate with pics... unbelievable...
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:54 am to
He will likely get in trouble for this a&m isn't as good at cheating as auburn
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:55 am to
I know. I think that was why Auburn did what they did with Cam and it worked out well. Also, it's worth noting that once someone is declared eligible, it doesn't imply lack of guilt. It just means that if there is a punishment, those games after the go-ahead aren't impacted.
This post was edited on 8/5/13 at 11:57 am
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:55 am to
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He will likely get in trouble for this a&m isn't as good at cheating as auburn
Are you ever gonna change your fandom to the correct one? You've been on MSU as long as I can remember.
Posted by darkhorse
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:55 am to
He's going to be fine anyway you look at it. He has an out. An Escape Goat! His name is Fitch.

The loophole was not closed. They expanded the definition of an agent to include parents for the enrollment. As in asking for money to sign.

Have they dealt with personal assistants who are rouge?

quote:

A prominent autograph broker on eBay, based in the Southeast, said that Nate Fitch -- Johnny Manziel's friend and personal assistant -- approached him last season to let him know that Manziel would no longer be signing autographs for him without compensation, according to ESPN's Joe Schad.



quote:

specific targets: anyone who "seeks to obtain any type of financial gain or benefit from securing a prospective student-athlete's enrollment at an educational institution



Posted by Duke
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:56 am to
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He will likely get in trouble for this a&m isn't as good at cheating as auburn


So? You have to vacate a few wins. BFD.

Second, I actually think nothing comes of this at this point.
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:57 am to
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Serious rules question - is there any risk (NCAA wise) to letting him practice?
Absolutely none... A.J. Green practiced the entire 8 weeks of his NCAA investigation... He just can't play...
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:58 am to
LINK

meet 'uncle Nate'
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:58 am to
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He will likely get in trouble for this a&m isn't as good at cheating as auburn


We never got in trouble for the Trans Am thing. So there!
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:59 am to
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It just means that if there is a punishment, those games after the go-ahead aren't impacted.

not true. they can still take those away.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:59 am to
well they weren't going to win shite either way so you are right not a big deal. If a&m gets in trouble though then sumlin might bolt and the flagship is going to sail past them even quicker
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 11:59 am to
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We never got in trouble for the Trans Am thing. So there!


Only cause Dickerson went to SMU
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:00 pm to
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Absolutely none... A.J. Green practiced the entire 8 weeks of his NCAA investigation... He just can't play...



refresh me on AJ, wasn't the four games actually supposed to be less but it was delayed or something?
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:00 pm to
I was just going by Alabama's textbook scandal. All of the games were vacated up to the Tennessee game, which is when the NCAA cleared them.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:02 pm to
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not true. they can still take those away.


So the NCAA can tell a school a kid is eligible, then decide he's not, and punish the school for playing him?

That's just fricking stupid.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:02 pm to
200k and nc > trans A&m
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:02 pm to
“ … an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain …”


This is their definition of an agent. Looks like Uncle Nate fits.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/5/13 at 12:03 pm to
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So the NCAA can tell a school a kid is eligible, then decide he's not, and punish the school for playing him?


yup and its been done. See Derrick Rose at memphis
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