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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:50 pm to
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1779 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:50 pm to
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To bad your source is two years old. the guy on Mike and Mike even said there were multiple changes to NCAA rules on investigation after the Newton case.


You have a link that says that anonymous/confidential sources can be used to prove violations? No?
Posted by utisdabomb12
Member since Aug 2013
148 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:50 pm to
Aggies sure do watch a bunch of ESPN for a group that thinks all they do is fabricate and lie about stories.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:51 pm to
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Right dude. Doesn't matter what anyone here says. Y'all think b/c you follow the leaks on the story closely that you can prove you have any clue what's going on in the investigation. You don't. You'd have to work for the NCAA to know, yet Aggies are basking in the sun on the way to the slaughterhouse.


Stop being such an overdramatic woman. Good lord

No, A&M doesn't know the intricate details that haven't been released. However, we DO understand this situation better than the typical Bama/LSU fan who just sees what gets put out on ESPN and selectively read through press releases. It grows frustrating when people who THINK they know what they're talking about start throwing out "lack of institutional control" and other shite that has no bearing on anything here.

Additionally, if Manziel is suspended it wont be akin to going to the "slaughterhouse". We'll laugh at the NCAA double standard, spend a few days opining our loss and then move on with what should be a pretty solid team anyway that, given our weak schedule, could still go 10-3 or so.
This post was edited on 8/13/13 at 1:53 pm
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:52 pm to
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Where was he wrong?

It wasn't an arse kicking (Bama outgained you, for example). Bama wasn't lucky to hold you under 50 (only 1 team has even broken 30 against Bama the last 4 years and A&M wasn't it). I could go on.

Bama came out flat, A&M exploited that with a great game plan and jumped out to a 20 point lead before the end of the 1st quarter. Aided by a +3 advantage in the turnover department A&M took it to Bama in ways that few teams can claim. Even after that, Bama settled in and twice had opportunities to win the game. I don't see how you can claim an "arse kicking" when the other team has 1st and goal from the 6 late in the 4th quarter with a chance to beat you.
Posted by utisdabomb12
Member since Aug 2013
148 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:52 pm to
Good non response. My source is the guy that was an official of the NCAA. if you find his contact info you can contact him if you like. I could honestly care less. just saying a former official of the NCAA was adamant about anonymous sources being legit.
This post was edited on 8/13/13 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37781 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:53 pm to
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BULL shite - the NCAA cleared Bama's textbook players to play, ruled them eligible. Bama played 'em and damned if the NCAA didn't come back and sanction & penalize Bama for playing ineligible players and forfeited the games those players played in.......

2 games in 2007?
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6686 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:53 pm to
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these "reports" out of ESPN dont mean jack shite
right, the ones that exposed the entire situation... only verified by incontrovertible evidence that he signed 4400 autographs in half the states in the union... and counting!!

ESPN's really grasping at straws, right Aggies??
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:53 pm to
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Bama came out flat, A&M exploited that with a great game plan and jumped out to a 20 point lead before the end of the 1st quarter. Aided by a +3 advantage in the turnover department A&M took it to Bama in ways that few teams can claim. Even after that, Bama settled in and twice had opportunities to win the game. I don't see how you can claim an "arse kicking" when the other team has 1st and goal from the 6 late in the 4th quarter with a chance to beat you.


Punted twice = arse kicking.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31904 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:54 pm to
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there were multiple changes to NCAA rules on investigation after the Newton case.

There was no way the NCAA could let a person (especially a family member) represent a student-athlete and shop around for the highest bidder. The whole "I didn't know" regarding Cam/Cecil could not be ignored and the NCAA knew it couldn't let that happen again.

Now, does Uncle Nate fall under the Cecil Newton loophole? Did Uncle Nate try to work a deal with the autograph brokers? Did Uncle Nate, acting as JM's personal assistant organize and manage the signing sessions like he organized and managed the bodyguards for JM?
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1779 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:54 pm to
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Good non response. My source is the guy that was an official of the NCAA. if you find his contact info you can contact him if you like. I could honestly care less. just saying a former official of the NCAA was adamant about anonymous sources being legit.



Do you work for ESPN? I believe they are looking for people that talk out of their arse behind "unnamed sources"
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:54 pm to
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And speaking of the shag, where's Randolph Duke?


Oh God, yes please. That would be FANTASTIC. Even this place hasn't seen that level of crazy yet.
Posted by utisdabomb12
Member since Aug 2013
148 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:56 pm to
Go watch Mike and Mike and you will shut up really quick about the sources.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1779 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:56 pm to
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right, the ones that exposed the entire situation... only verified by incontrovertible evidence that he signed 4400 autographs in half the states in the union... and counting!!


Oh you mean this guy Darren Rovell

The guy who got fooled into writing a story on an escort business for NBA players based on a high school seniors emails? That's the brilliant journalist who busted this story.
Posted by utisdabomb12
Member since Aug 2013
148 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:57 pm to
An Aggie calling out other fans for being crazy. have you been to TexAgs?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 1:58 pm to
Mike and Mike is pretty weak as far as sports talk radio goes. I'd much rather listen to Dan Patrick, the Ticket, etc.
Posted by utisdabomb12
Member since Aug 2013
148 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 2:00 pm to
• Former NCAA enforcement director Mark Jones comments on how the investigation of Johnny Manziel has been handled, Manziel's future and more.

I'll take his word on sources and an investigation since he specifically worked in the enforcement sector.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 2:01 pm to
The latest ESPN article claiming 2 additional sources has completely disappeared from the front page...I wonder why.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6686 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 2:01 pm to
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pretty solid team anyway that, given our weak schedule, could still go 10-3 or so.
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Stop being such an overdramatic woman.
This from the guy who said he would revenge his daughter's blow-jobs by murdering anyone she blew. Great guy.
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we DO understand this situation better than the typical Bama/LSU fan who just sees what gets put out on ESPN and selectively read through press releases
Yea, like when ESPN interviewed Manziel's attorney, and y'all were on here like Mark Emmert had spoken. His defense attorney's defending him!! Case closed!!

Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 2:03 pm to
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right, the ones that exposed the entire situation... only verified by incontrovertible evidence that he signed 4400 autographs in half the states in the union... and counting!!



The first person to report this story last week (and one of the major ones continuing to perpetuate it) was tricked into reporting a national story by emails from high schoolers, has been sued for libel and was almost kicked out of Northwestern for academic dishonesty.

Yeah, that guy...
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 8/13/13 at 2:03 pm to
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Bama wasn't lucky to hold you under 50 (only 1 team has even broken 30 against Bama the last 4 years and A&M wasn't it)


Considering A&M missed an XP (rare), a chip shot field goal (less rare, but still a high percentage kick in college), and forfeited the opportunity to kick another XP (that would have broken 30) in lieu of a 2pt conversion attempt, I'd say y'all were very lucky, actually.

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I don't see how you can claim an "arse kicking" when the other team has 1st and goal from the 6 late in the 4th quarter with a chance to beat you.



First of all, because A&M was straight up punking the run game and daring Bama to beat us passing (which y'all failed to do). To put it bluntly, we weren't scared.

Secondly, it was a chance to take the lead, not beat us. A&M had JUST taken all of two plays to score a touchdown on the previous possession. Plenty of time would have remained even if y'all had scored.
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