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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:00 am to TutHillTiger
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:00 am to TutHillTiger
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Did ESPN lie about the status of the "investigation" or is the lawyer making a very poor choice by saying there isn't when there is?
Depends on what the word "is" is.
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Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:05 am to tjhilton
No NOI no investigation.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 1:08 am to tjhilton
I think an NOI is issued after the start the investigation process not before but I will defer to one of the Auburn defenders on that tomorrow we had 100 pages or more on all this shite during camgate. It seems like that was an issue in camgate when the investigation started, when it was ongoing and net etc.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 2:18 am to TutHillTiger
That is an unholy amount of text at 1 in the gd morning 
Posted on 8/9/13 at 4:26 am to TbirdSpur2010
Joe Schad reporting from ESPN offices!
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 4:46 am
Posted on 8/9/13 at 6:28 am to Maroon Flash
I'll be damned. This is an unforseen turn of events.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:33 am to Jobu93
Imma have to pop another bag of 
here in a minute.
here in a minute. Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:57 am to Roger Klarvin
Can somebody post a short summary for us lazy asses?
Posted on 8/9/13 at 7:57 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Go look at my post history, i have been saying this since the beginning. It has been humorous watching grown men watch the Soap Opera called ESPN and treat it like a true "News" station. I am embarrassed by the LSU fans who got caught up in this. "JOE SCHAD SAID HE SAW IT!!!! WHY WOULD HE LIE!!!! BYE BYE JFF!!!!" Well morons, what exactly have ESPN and Joe Schad actually told the truth about. Let's see, not CAM, Saints, Leach, Teo, and so on
There is no NOI and ESPN lied! ESPN is throwing shite at the wall to see if they can get something to stick and gain traction.
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 8:01 am
Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:29 am to TutHillTiger
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I think an NOI is issued after the start the investigation process not before but I will defer to one of the Auburn defenders on that tomorrow we had 100 pages or more on all this shite during camgate. It seems like that was an issue in camgate when the investigation started, when it was ongoing and net etc.
NCAA starts a review process first to determine if there is enough evidence for an investigation. If the NCAA decides an investigation is appropriate, they notify the University that a formal investigation has or will begin.
Looks like A&M is in the review process where the NCAA is or has gathered information due to tips, leads, concerns.
No investigation has commenced unless A&M has been officially notified of such.
ESPN should really differentiate, but ESPN is pretty irresponsible so that may be asking too much of them.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:37 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Additionally, the next steps after an official investigation begins (this is as far as the Cam thing got) are:
Notice of Allegations: At the end of the investigative process, the NCAA issues the NOA if they have found evidence that violations did in fact occur.
Response to NOA: University can accept findings and ask for penalty determinations or ask for a hearing. If a hearing is requested, the process continues, if not, skip to committee report below.
Hearing before infractions committee: University and NCAA present their case to the committee.
Infractions committee report. University receives 24 hours before it is made public and it includes findings and penalties.
University can appeal if they choose to do so.
Notice of Allegations: At the end of the investigative process, the NCAA issues the NOA if they have found evidence that violations did in fact occur.
Response to NOA: University can accept findings and ask for penalty determinations or ask for a hearing. If a hearing is requested, the process continues, if not, skip to committee report below.
Hearing before infractions committee: University and NCAA present their case to the committee.
Infractions committee report. University receives 24 hours before it is made public and it includes findings and penalties.
University can appeal if they choose to do so.
This post was edited on 8/9/13 at 8:38 am
Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:39 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Well, like someone just said, it's a shame grown men who are able to influence people are so immature as to push their agendas against one school and boost others.
Fans are normally made up of people who love their schools, lots of family people who hand down their love of their school to their kids.
How hard is it to explain to your children that because a former coach hurt someone at ESPN's feelings, they are forever going to trash your school and tell lies about your program that others lap up and believe.
How easy it is for them to destroy the reputation of a person or a whole program for no other reason than entertainment and money.
Fans are normally made up of people who love their schools, lots of family people who hand down their love of their school to their kids.
How hard is it to explain to your children that because a former coach hurt someone at ESPN's feelings, they are forever going to trash your school and tell lies about your program that others lap up and believe.
How easy it is for them to destroy the reputation of a person or a whole program for no other reason than entertainment and money.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:41 am to tampajoe
LINK
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"I can't say much," Darnell told USA TODAY Sports, "other than we're working through the process. He's cooperating with the investigation. We think when all this comes out on the other end, he'll be the starting quarterback for the Aggies against Rice."
Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:41 am to tampajoe
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Well, like someone just said, it's a shame grown men who are able to influence people are so immature as to push their agendas against one school and boost others.
Fans are normally made up of people who love their schools, lots of family people who hand down their love of their school to their kids.
How hard is it to explain to your children that because a former coach hurt someone at ESPN's feelings, they are forever going to trash your school and tell lies about your program that others lap up and believe.
How easy it is for them to destroy the reputation of a person or a whole program for no other reason than entertainment and money.
Amen Brotha
Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:42 am to Don Johnson
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"I can't say much," Darnell told USA TODAY Sports, "other than we're working through the process. He's cooperating with the investigation. We think when all this comes out on the other end, he'll be the starting quarterback for the Aggies against Rice."
I think this is referring to A&M's investigation...
Posted on 8/9/13 at 8:46 am to Fondels
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I think this is referring to A&M's investigation...
Is the A&M investigation formal? If not, how dare he call it an investigation.
Or are they just trying to gather facts to see if its worth pursuing, which is what the NCAA is no doubt doing.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 9:03 am to Don Johnson
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The Manziels say that, in compliance with NCAA regulations, Johnny Manziel and no other member of the family will comment publicly about the investigation.
LINK
Posted on 8/9/13 at 9:04 am to IT_Dawg
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The Manziels say that, in compliance with NCAA regulations, Johnny Manziel and no other member of the family will comment publicly about the investigation.
LINK
Hmm, IDK then...
Posted on 8/9/13 at 9:05 am to Fondels
They need to just ban that fricker and move on. Every school has problem players but this dude is just a dickhead.
Posted on 8/9/13 at 9:05 am to Fondels
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I think this is referring to A&M's investigation...
Which I'm sure will really find fault and be neutral
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