re: As I said last night, OSU is going to end up #2 in all the computers

It's written by an Lsu homer afraid to face Bama again. No thanks.

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you have no clue what you are talking about, just like most of the Bama fans.


hell, just tonight I've come across two idiot Bama fans that didn't even know that it was human poll points that counted in the BCS as opposed to ranking.

fricking idiots, the whole lot of you

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Obviously you're not referring to me.

And all you've talked about is if OK St beats OU and Bama beats Auburn. That's not even close to all of the variables at play here. OK St is banking on its computer ranking. Bottom line. If that is tarnished WHATSOEVER, they lose face. They already are an afterthought to Stanford and VTech, who both have games against ranked teams coming up.

Your entire argument is that all of the USA Today and Harris points will be for OK St because they just don't want to see a rematch...which is a huge assumption on your part.

Then again all you've made all night is assumptions.

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The key here will be how those chosen to have a vote view a rematch, as they can and possibly will drop Bama a spot because of it.

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When you're dealing with voters in the Harris and Coaches polls, I think it is less likely than with the AP Poll. You're either dealing with coaches or former players/coaches that have some integrity and want to vote based on what they think the proper order is.

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have you done the math? I have. Plus, I understand the mentality of the CFB media and they will largely be against a rematch.

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I've seen the math, however it isn't the media voting in the coaches poll. In the harris poll there is some media, however you're also dealing with former coaches, players, and administrators. I really don't believe these guys will trash their integrity by picking a team that they believe is inferior. Some may do this, however I don't see 25% of the people going from thinking they're not even a consensus number 6 to thinkging they're above number 3 in a 2 week period based on one game. I just don't see it. I understand it is possible based on the number, however you'd be dealing with 25% of the voters basically saying screw the system. They're a part of the system so I doubt they'll do it.

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Has anyone offered up an opinion on why the computers rank the Big 12 as the toughest conference? Maybe I'm missing something, but OSU's schedule doesn't exactly scream tough to me...

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This.

Their overall opposition W:L isn't as good as the SEC's.

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Has anyone offered up an opinion on why the computers rank the Big 12 as the toughest conference?

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I think it is because the Big 12 was so close to becoming dismantled. The powers that be are looking to bolster that group making them appear more relevant, thus strengthening them from any further breakup.

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Posted by Teague
You're a dumbass if you think OSU has any shot of jumping Bama if Bama wins out.

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Prepare to be extremely upset on Selection Sunday, brah :lol;

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Prepare to be extremely upset on Selection Sunday, brah :lol;

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I think that this is wishful thinking on LSU's part.

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That "few" is what I'm not so sure about. I'd like to see the math because just off the top of my head I'd guess it would take close to 1/3 of the voters (more if anyone votes Oklahoma St lower than #3).

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Oklahoma State needs a lot of teams to lose. If Stanford and VA Tech both lose, then I'll start to worry more. If Houston loses, then that will worry me as well. At this point OSU isn't even a consensus number 6. Houston and Boise are probably taking some 6th place votes from them. They may have some votes as far back as 8 or 9 right now. I think it is going to be hard to change someone's mind that they're number 2 or 3 in 2 weeks with only one game.

That being said, I'll just be rooting for Stanford to win because that will probably derail the train.

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wasn't it stated on the BCS countdown that Bama had 169 of 175 second place votes? Wouldn't Okie State have to pickup over 53 votes?

Seems very unlikely.

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Not at all. First off.. there are 174 total votes cast. (59 coaches, 115 harris). Math shows that in this scenario Oklahoma St (while #2 in the computers) would need 26% of the 2nd place votes to pass Alabama in the overall BCS rankings. They would need roughly 45 total 2nd place votes in order to keep Alabama out.

The question is.. out of those 174 voters, how many of them do you think favor an SEC rematch as the BCS title game. Lots of SEC haters out there. ~75% of the voters could want a rematch and Alabama could get passed up. That's all I'm saying. I doubt it happens because I don't think Oklahoma St is good enough to beat OU.

With the coaches ballot being private now.. do you think Dooley will vote for Alabama? What about Spurrier? Gene Chizik? Will they help Alabama out and give them that extra exposure.. or will they vote Ok St in? What about the Pac12 coaches? Do you think they want an SEC vs SEC match up? What about the Big 10.. or the ACC? Or the Big 12?

It's a sticky situation and politics are at play.. if Oklahoma State can somehow get by OU. If not bring on the rematch Twice in one year will be sweet