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re: Article: SDS "Its not you, Bryan Harsin, It's simply the Auburn Way"
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:44 am to PaulsBunions
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:44 am to PaulsBunions
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Damn, is there anything were not better than you at?
Other than correct grammar?
I have to admit that I admire the University of Alabama's lead in cheating. No one has done it as well for as long. While other universities struggled along with trying to amass piles of money to dole out willy-nilly style, the University of Alabama pioneered the procedure of assigning a specific athlete to a specific booster, thereby insulating the University from harm should the program come to light. Ingenious. In essence they invented the NIL system.
Yes indeed. The University of Alabama is the true GOAT of cheating. Huzzah.
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:44 am to Whentheleveebreaks
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Now I have no dog in this fight. But what exactly has Harsin done football wise to show he’s a mess up? Hard to win with an average QB.
5 straight losses including multiple blown leads/collapses
Almost lost to GA state
OM win was against a depleted team
LSU win was just Bo playing well, we didn't remotely out-scheme them
Thats just on the field. Off the field is where it gets really bad.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:45 am to PJinAtl
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Bowden was that he went to TPTB in the middle of the season and wanted to know if he was going to be retained for 1999. When they told him they would do a performance review after the season (which meant he was going to be axed) he quit instead of getting fired because his ego as a Bowden wouldn't let him have the stink of being fired.
That's the way I remember it. I also saw him out on the town a lot...inebriated.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:45 am to Whentheleveebreaks
quote:There are plenty of signs that he might not be the right fit, but unless he has done something egregious, you don’t hire a coach only to fire him after 1 year. It appears there is a bit of a culture change needed. If true, that takes time and you have to give him a chance to do it.
But what exactly has Harsin done football wise to show he’s a mess up?
If he has done something inappropriate with a subordinate, then I’m ok drawing that bright line and following it consistently. You pretty much have to.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 9:46 am
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:46 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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Somehow though we have dumbass fans that are convinced that firing a coach after 1 year and hiring another in March is going to right the program and get recruiting back on track. There isn’t a decent coach in the country that’s going to take this job under those circumstances.
Yeah, lets just let Harsin finish killing the program then MAYBE we hire someone better than we could get right now in a year
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:47 am to WarDamnSmeagol
quote:that is an assumption not a known eventuality
lets just let Harsin finish killing the program
Firing him based on performance after one year would be a huge mistake
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:50 am to WDE24
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There are plenty of signs that he might not be the right fit, but unless he has done something egregious, you don’t hire a coach only to fire him after 1 year. It appears there is a bit of a culture change needed. If true, that takes time and you have to give him a chance to do it.
I think the transfer portal has changed college football. You can make a team competitive faster than ever, but on the flipside a team can become totally inept faster than ever as well. I don't think Auburn/the boosters are doing it for this reason, but if you see the amount of warning signs you're seeing from the Harsin regime already then I think there is logic in just canning the guy. If he went 0-12 he is gone and no one bats an eye.... whats the record + off the field issues equivalent of 0-12? Cause I think hes pretty close to it.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:53 am to WDE24
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that is an assumption not a known eventuality
What record do you think saves him if he gets another year? Because unless its 8 wins (and I wouldn't bet on them even getting to 8), this team likely isn't capable unless Geriner shows up and is a world beater and we have multiple freshmen WRs ready to contribute in a big way.
His recruiting isn't going to save him, I don't think hes going to get carried by his coordinators either.
Just trying to be realistic, though I guess saying "let him finish killing the program" was extreme. Things won't improve under him though, I am 100% convinced of that.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:56 am to Hback
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The Bowden ordeal still has to be the most bizarre of all. Some really crazy rumors, and we'll probably never know what actually went down
Former auburn RB Stephen Davis said he was still being paid after Bowden made this statement....This of course was while they were on probation for paying players.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:57 am to WarDamnSmeagol
Agreed and what I love from the hit piece is Bowden still be butt hurt thirty years later. Tater tot dug his own tiny little hole.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:00 am to AUWDE
quote:It’s not the location. It’s the people running shite. Poor decisions are being made.
Pretty sure Gus still has a lake house they go to quite frequently. Chizik left his entire family in Auburn even when he was coaching at UNC.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 10:01 am
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:03 am to WarDamnSmeagol
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Yeah, lets just let Harsin finish killing the program then MAYBE we hire someone better than we could get right now in a year
The same people that you think are going to save the program from death are the very same people who’ve been killing it. The boosters have had the program in a stranglehold for ages and you are ready for them to blow it up again. This shite is why I can’t take auburn fans seriously. It’s the same reason I rarely watch games anymore. Go ahead and fire him and hire a Mike Shula in march. I can’t wait to read the same old tired excuses in 2 or 3 years when the next guy is run out of town
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:05 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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It’s the same reason I rarely watch games anymore.
And there it is
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:06 am to WarDamnSmeagol
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WarDamnSmeagol
As long as there is the Auburn PTB and fans like you that support them, I rest easy that Auburn will never be a consistent contender.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:11 am to BLG
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As long as there is the Auburn PTB and fans like you that support them, I rest easy that Auburn will never be a consistent contender.
Thinking Harsin sucks and supporting the PTB are mutually exclusive. If they have any way whatsoever to can the guy where its not an outright coup I want them to. I think another year of him is wasting our time.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:14 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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The same people that you think are going to save the program from death are the very same people who’ve been killing it. The boosters have had the program in a stranglehold for ages and you are ready for them to blow it up again. This shite is why I can’t take auburn fans seriously. It’s the same reason I rarely watch games anymore. Go ahead and fire him and hire a Mike Shula in march. I can’t wait to read the same old tired excuses in 2 or 3 years when the next guy is run out of town
Oh look, a reasonable take on the whole situation. The notion that firing Harsin actually solves anything is silly. At best it puts a bandaid on the problem for a few years. Because many of the people orchestrating his removal after just 14 months on the job wanted to hire Kevin Steele. Those guys aren't going anywhere, and they will make sure the next AD y'all hire is just a puppet.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:19 am to Robot Santa
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Because many of the people orchestrating his removal after just 14 months on the job wanted to hire Kevin Steele.
And don’t forget these same people rejected Kirby Smart in place of Gus because Kirby wanted full control of the program. Look where UGA is now and look at our shitshow. Let’s go ahead and fire Harsin now because these idiot boosters have a long track record of great decisions and long term sustained success.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:23 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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Let’s go ahead and fire Harsin now because these idiot boosters have a long track record of great decisions and long term sustained success.
Going off that, Harsin and the boosters should get along well because they have so much in common
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 10:25 am
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:47 am to mwlewis
Said it a day or so ago...big money Auburn alums plat dirty and for keeps.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:50 am to mwlewis
It's really hard to see how Harsin can survive, but I think this is more about a the transition to more professional athletic department management from the GOB system of yesteryear. We've seen these transitions get ugly and take time before:
-The end of the Broyles period at Arkansas, and the Jeff Long mess
-The end of Pete Boone at Ole Miss
-The Phil Fulmer saga, first behind the scenes, then as AD
-The curious case of Joe Alleva at LSU
I think there's just an aspect to these sagas that involve a generational handover that's often overlooked.
-The end of the Broyles period at Arkansas, and the Jeff Long mess
-The end of Pete Boone at Ole Miss
-The Phil Fulmer saga, first behind the scenes, then as AD
-The curious case of Joe Alleva at LSU
I think there's just an aspect to these sagas that involve a generational handover that's often overlooked.
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