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re: Article on Mizzou travel expenses in the SEC coming in 1 million over budget
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:10 pm to HuggieBear
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:10 pm to HuggieBear
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frick you Yankee.
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Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:11 pm to mograyback
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Try to not be a dumbass next time.
Did you get a Mizzou diploma or are you a sidewalk Mizzou fan?
read the article nubnuts, it was in the Saint Louis paper
"We didn't do anything extravagant traveling last year at all, and we never have," said Doug Gillin, Missouri's deputy athletic director. "It's always going to be a high expense line item."
The average distance between Missouri and an SEC school is 518 miles, nearly 100 miles more than the average distance between the school and members of the 2011-12 Big 12.
Which means they budgeted 2 million for those extra 100 miles but it cost 3 million (150% of the original budget) so it means all those smart guys at Mizzou were not so good at math. I can see going as high as 10% over budget but most guys would get fired at 15% over budget. It was a serious query as to how over budget the other Mizzou upgrades will actually wind up costing.
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Please don't inject the facts.
Yet you offer no links to alternate facts so I will take the reporting by a credible St Louis paper over your butthurt babbling.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:13 pm to Dr RC
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IMO the SEC itself should start picking up the tab for all in conference travel expenses. It should be able to do this with ease once the money from the SECN comes in.
I think I might actually agree with Dr RC on this.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:14 pm to Robot Santa
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I guess we need to invite Notre Dame when the inevitable 16 team expansion happens.
Honestly? If ND ever considered joining the answer should be an emphatic yes from a monetary standpoint.
Gaining Notre Dame would be a massive boost to the fortunes of the SECN.
This post was edited on 7/5/13 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:15 pm to mograyback
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This is a good idea, and another way to create equality in the league.
Or you can just pay for travel like Kentucky has as the previously northernmost state (and Florida as the southernmost) for years. It's not been an issue for either school.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:16 pm to Dr RC
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It's 1,042 miles from Mizzou to Rutgers
Rutgers probably not in Big10 if Mizzou is already in.
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They would take long arse trips regardless of what conference they ended up in.
less in Big10
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IMO the SEC itself should start picking up the tab for all in conference travel expenses. It should be able to do this with ease once the money from the SECN comes in.
hell no
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:16 pm to Dr RC
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IMO the SEC itself should start picking up the tab for all in conference travel expenses. It should be able to do this with ease once the money from the SECN comes in.
Not a good idea. Folks at the top are not used to traveling like the grunts. Folks in the SEC home office all fly private or first class. Nobody in the home office probably knows how to haggle for lower costs. This means the donors and fans at the individual schools will be paying for 1st class travel and 5 star hotels why they get stuck driving beaters to the nearest Motel 6.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:19 pm to BluegrassBelle
Well yes but if the NCAA/University is supposedly about the the students and not big business (an NCAA assertion) why not take some of this billion dollar contract money and use it for student-athlete travel. By student-athlete I mean non football/men's hoops players.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:21 pm to Cheese Grits
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Yet you offer no links to alternate facts so I will take the reporting by a credible St Louis paper over your butthurt babbling.
There is no butthurt babbling, just injection of truth.
They got screwed by the company they were using, they ran out of the smaller jets, they were forced to scrabble and they ended up with unnecessarily big planes and it cost more. See how that works... a little truth explains it.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:22 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Well yes but if the NCAA/University is supposedly about the the students and not big business (an NCAA assertion) why not take some of this billion dollar contract money and use it for student-athlete travel. By student-athlete I mean non football/men's hoops players.
Then why does the NCAA not haggle for better room rates for the NCAA games for the schools / fans and why does the NCAA not make more tickets available to the schools / donors instead of selling them to the scalpers like Ticketmaster and Stub Hub.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:23 pm to bona fide
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Rutgers probably not in Big10 if Mizzou is already in.
I bet they still would have gone after the NYC market they took Rutgers in for. If anything this would Mizzou would have shut out Maryland.
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hell no
Why? It seems reasonable that the conference pick up the tab for conference games they themselves schedule.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:24 pm to mograyback
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They got screwed by the company they were using, they ran out of the smaller jets, they were forced to scrabble and they ended up with unnecessarily big planes and it cost more. See how that works... a little truth explains it.
a) where is your link?
b) big planes = 100% of cost over runs? Or was that just a portion of the 1 million?
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:25 pm to Cheese Grits
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Not a good idea. Folks at the top are not used to traveling like the grunts. Folks in the SEC home office all fly private or first class. Nobody in the home office probably knows how to haggle for lower costs. This means the donors and fans at the individual schools will be paying for 1st class travel and 5 star hotels why they get stuck driving beaters to the nearest Motel 6.
The schools can still make the arrangements. Just have the SEC pay the tab. I don't see why this would be such an issue.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:29 pm to Cheese Grits
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a) where is your link?
b) big planes = 100% of cost over runs? Or was that just a portion of the 1 million?
Not going to dig around for a link. Heard it in an interview from the AD, read it somewhere else too. Don't really care what you think about that. They did definitely under budget, but there was reason for it being so drastically wrong. Try booking a flight last minute, it's more expensive. Now do it hundreds of times and on much bigger planes than needed, it adds up.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:33 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
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Well yes but if the NCAA/University is supposedly about the the students and not big business (an NCAA assertion) why not take some of this billion dollar contract money and use it for student-athlete travel. By student-athlete I mean non football/men's hoops players.
Really it all depends on what the SEC has already allotted that money for at this point. I'm willing to bet they already have a plan for it.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:34 pm to Dr RC
A new 85 seat Antonov An-148 only costs 22 million. Wouldn't some used ones that pay for itself in a few years?
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:36 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I'm willing to bet they already have a plan for it.
Hopefully a good chunk to programming/production for a 1st rate network. I really fear a BillyBob&Bubba network. We'll see.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:41 pm to Cheese Grits
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Then why does the NCAA not haggle...
Like I said, it's an assertion. But to the specific Mizzou point...the NCAA is a huge beauracy, the SEC only 14 members...a much more manageable number for better oversight. The philosophy has always been fraternal and share-and-share alike. The travel expense being part of this should be considered, that's all. jmo.
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:43 pm to Cheese Grits
Just laying the groundwork to head back to the Big 12 and then the SEC can find a better fit
Posted on 7/5/13 at 1:52 pm to dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
quote:No. Running and maintaining them is a much higher cost than most people realize.
A new 85 seat Antonov An-148 only costs 22 million. Wouldn't some used ones that pay for itself in a few years?
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