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re: Arrest made in Rod Bramblett accident

Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:11 am to
Posted by TheGreek
Historic Brookhaven
Member since Jun 2012
287 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:11 am to
91 mph at time of impact.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15941 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:13 am to
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You're ok with letting him go, because imprisoning him is too lazy of a solution?



There is a reason the victims of crimes don't get to determine the penalties. While what the victim wants is a factor in sentencing they don't get to make that decision for good reason.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19448 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:22 am to
Thanks for that clarification - I apparently had the terms reversed.

I assumed manslaughter was the less serious of the charges, and negligent homicide the greater offense.

It appears that charging the kid with manslaughter is appropriate in this instance, based on the definitions you provided.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31529 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 10:30 am to
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It appears that charging the kid with manslaughter is appropriate in this instance, based on the definitions you provided.

probably so

but charging him as an adult is severly excessive IMO, unless they can prove he got high that evening before getting in the car

at this point, I'd like to see a 5 year suspended sentence with 18 months in one of those military/boot camp style programs that we have for DUIs & and parole/community service for the remaining time

no way that I can support putting this kid in an adult prison
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36697 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 11:51 am to
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91 mph at time of impact.


Pretty much all my sympathy for the kid just disappeared.

I'm so sick and tired of people who think they have the right to constantly put other peoples lives at risk due to bad driving in general.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20489 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:00 pm to
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THC can stay in your blood for a day I think. A saliva test can only detect THC for a few hours after use

no

it stays for several days and up to several weeks

Thc has a half life significantly shorter than the thc metabolites most tests look for. There's a huge difference between the 2.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36697 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:08 pm to
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Thc has a half life significantly shorter than the thc metabolites most tests look for. There's a huge difference between the 2.


And beyond that, the effects it has on people can also have a huge difference.

I've been smoking for decades now, lived on the west coast for 20 years where it's basically been legal and I do not get anywhere near as high while smoking the high grade stuff(What I'm smoking today supposedly is 27% THC) as I did when I was 16 years old smoking that 9-11% THC brick weed.

There really doesn't exist much in the way of accurate testing.

I doubt he was high if he was doing 91.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 12:08 pm
Posted by BamaNatureBoy
Gulf Shores
Member since May 2017
1665 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:22 pm to
I bet you receive some type of government help. Or you have had some type of drug use in the past.
Posted by DavidA
Member since Mar 2011
141 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:39 pm to
The marijuana issue here is secondary. The 91 mph is sufficient on its own for conviction on the Manslaughter charge. The issue of marijuana usage will, however, be in the back of the minds of the judge and jury and will result in a more sure conviction and a stiffer sentence. That’s just how the majority of Alabama population views people that use marijuana.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36697 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:40 pm to
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The 91 mph is sufficient on its own for conviction on the Manslaughter charge.


100% agree
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:48 pm to
The mary jane issue may be of relevance depending on where he got it.

If someone "gave" it to him, and said person who "gave" it to him was an adult who then let him drive home because "lol weed isnt bad it makes you drive slower", then I guarantee you any lawyer worth their salt will argue that point as a significant mitigating factor and paint the kid as a victim who trusted an adult in authority.

Lots of "ifs" there, but it is a possibility.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12213 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:49 pm to
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I've been smoking for decades now, lived on the west coast for 20 years where it's basically been legal and I do not get anywhere near as high while smoking the high grade stuff(What I'm smoking today supposedly is 27% THC) as I did when I was 16 years old smoking that 9-11% THC brick weed.



You can build up a tolerance to anything. What would have me unable to stand on one drug you would be fine, while a different drug could be opposite.

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doubt he was high if he was doing 91.


Fall asleep and your foot mashes the accelerator is very likely in this situation.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
69358 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:52 pm to
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If someone "gave" it to him, and said person who "gave" it to him was an adult who then let him drive home because "lol weed isnt bad it makes you drive slower", then I guarantee you any lawyer worth their salt will argue that point as a significant mitigating factor and paint the kid as a victim who trusted an adult in authority.



Like we discussed before, that is just victim thinking. The 16 year old has to make decisions that are correct for the safety of everyone he encounters while he has the right to drive among us. When he gets behind the wheel, he is on the same plane and you me and everyone else. His responsibility. Making decisions is hard in life.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 12:55 pm to
Sure, he should feel some repercussions, but a lawyer will absolutely argue the point I am making if the scenario played out as I described and I personally feel the kid shouldn't have his life ruined over it (assuming the scenario occurred). The adult who sourced the narcotic absolutely should. Giving a 16 year old weed and letting him drive home is a poor choice.
This post was edited on 7/5/19 at 12:56 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36697 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 1:05 pm to

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Fall asleep and your foot mashes the accelerator is very likely in this situation.


It's possible, but it seems like you'd have to be doing a pretty decent speed before then to get to that speed. Gas pedals are pretty stiff and just resting your foot on one doesn't really push it to the floor.

I really dislike speeders. Not the 61 in 55 guy, but the 70 in a 55 guy - yeah, I hope you get a ticket.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39389 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 1:10 pm to
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but the 70 in a 55 guy - yeah, I hope you get a ticket.


When the slowest car is going 55 and most are going 70, is it really worth that dislike feeling? The speed limits are often outdated.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28523 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

If someone "gave" it to him, and said person who "gave" it to him was an adult who then let him drive home because "lol weed isnt bad it makes you drive slower", then I guarantee you any lawyer worth their salt will argue that point as a significant mitigating factor and paint the kid as a victim who trusted an adult in authority.



This as you worded it is a pretty lame argument. You can't hold the manager at a Publix responsible if a sober person came in, bought a six pack of beer, left, consumed it, then got behind the wheel and killed someone. Merely "giving" it to him doesn't establish responsibility.
Posted by DavidA
Member since Mar 2011
141 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 2:36 pm to
I’m thinking because this case has gotten so much publicity and because the evil Devil weed is tangentially involved, the prosecutor will want please his constituents by coming down hard on the young man. I suspect he will not negotiate a plea to negligent homicide.

More than likely, he’ll be found guilty of Manslaughter and probably be sentenced to ten years. The average time served for this is 4.5 years.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31529 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 3:27 pm to
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I bet you receive some type of government help. Or you have had some type of drug use in the past.


because I don't want to see a kid that looks to be non violent and a non threat to society thrown in an adult prison, that leads you to assume that I recieve government assistance?

right...
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
29636 posts
Posted on 7/5/19 at 5:38 pm to
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kid that looks to be non violent and a non threat to society



You had me right up until there. Going 35 MPH over the speed limit is kind of a threat.
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