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re: Arkansas will beat Georgia

Posted on 8/16/20 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 12:34 pm to
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We need to stop comparisons to 2019 LSU.


Nobody is making comparisons. They set a standard and showed what can be done. It might not necessarily happen...but it certainly flies in the face of you guys saying it can't be done and Georgia is destined to fail.

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Burrow does not play in the SEC anymore.




So, in your world the only person that can throw a football is Joe Burrow? He certainly had an epic year. but Georgia would not need a QB to perform on the level of Joe Burrow. But an improvement over the production would go a long way. We will have a new OC which should certainly help along with some experienced WRs. That should help, too.

I'm not sure why you think we would need a performance along the lines of Joe Burrow to be successful.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 12:39 pm to
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You got a once in a lifetime passing threat at Georgia we don't know about? Burrow is literally a HOF College QB


We didn't need it last year and beat Florida. What happens if our new offense and new QB does a bit better than what we got last year. Not as good as LSU. But better. Let me help you. We beat Florida. Again.

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I've seen Kirby shite the bed twice against Alabama and get his face caved in by LSU back to back years.
You mean like Mullen did against georgia? Yet you still think he is going to lead you the the glory land. I mean, honestly. Did you watch the playcalling of last years game? Your first drive when he went for it on 4 and 2?

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What's Kirby's excuse for not even being able to hang a single quarter with LSU last year?

Probably the same as Mulllen's for not controlling the ball once when Florida could take the lead after the first quarter or so. Think about that for just a minute. Florida never had the ball when if they scored they would have taken the lead, after their first possession of the second quarter.


Not. Once.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32874 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 12:48 pm to
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What's Kirby's excuse for not even being able to hang a single quarter with LSU last year? Didn't have his own players?


Swift was limited with injury, cager was out with injury, Pickens was suspended for one half, and then blaylock and Jackson left the game with early injuries.

Also, Fromm missed a wide open td pass, just as he did vs Florida.

Any other brain busters?
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 12:48 pm to
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mean, if you lose to Muschamp like that at home, you can lose to anyone.


But not FLLLorida.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 1:15 pm to
Whoa guy, don’t take out your anger on me.
Of course any team can go on an unexpected run.

Hell, 2019 LSU was certainly unexpected by anybody that follows football.

It’s just unlikely that it will happen for Georgia. It could, but it’s unlikely.
Hell, I fully expect LSU to struggle this season too.(assuming it’s fairly normal and teams don’t lose simply due to covid)

No SEC team going into 2020 seems to have what it takes to go on a dominating run. Alabama is always a threat here, but they have some ?s when it comes to some key positions.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 1:27 pm to
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Georgia bulldawg fans really don’t seem to like you.



I love Straws posts.

I like in 2017 when he predicted to run out with wins on the schedule after handling Vandy. Florida finished the year going 1-5. Now he doesn't love Mac so much, but in 2017 after Vandy, he was seeing SEC Championships.

I like in 2018 how bullish he was about his defense after the LSU win. I told him about Grantham and his weaknesses, and he predicted a top 10 defense finish. Grantham immediately gave up 33.5 ppg over the next 4 game run of Vandy, UGA, Mizzou, and Scar.

Straws is best when he is dropping predictions. If you are a Vegas guy, you can make a lot of money going the other way.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Whoa guy, don’t take out your anger on me.
Of course any team can go on an unexpected run.


Crap dude. Anger? Who's mad?

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Hell, 2019 LSU was certainly unexpected by anybody that follows football.
Absolutely.

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It’s just unlikely that it will happen for Georgia. It could, but it’s unlikely.
Pretty sure that's exactly what I said. Is reading difficult for you?

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Hell, I fully expect LSU to struggle this season too
Struggle? no. They'll have a very good year. They have been recruiting at a great level and have plenty of talent on their roster. They won't be nearly as good as they were last year, (IMO) but they won't struggle. 1 MAYBE 2 losses is what I expect.

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No SEC team going into 2020 seems to have what it takes to go on a dominating run. Alabama is always a threat here, but they have some ?s when it comes to some key positions.


I always expect Alabama to be on top until they have 2 straight seasons of missing the playoffs. Saban is that good, and they have that much talent. They are the epitome of reload every year.


My point is you saying Arkansas will beat Georgia and as proof you base it on we have a new offense. I merely pointed out that LSU showed that changing offenses and bringing in help on offenses does not mean a team will be struggling the next year.

Mad? hardly. I have been on here long enough not to get too ruffled by weak trolls.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:05 pm to
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proof you base it on we have a new offense


Once again confusing me with the Florida poster. I didn’t base my prediction on anything except for Kirby demonstrating he can lose to MuschaMp.
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
3062 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:32 pm to
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Arkansas will beat Georgia


What's your dealer's name? Asking for a friend..
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:37 pm to
In football?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:49 pm to
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anything except for Kirby demonstrating he can lose to MuschaMp.


And O lost to Troy so therefore he "demonstrated" he can lose to Vanderbilt.

Makes about as much sense.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59915 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 3:51 pm to
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Arkansas will beat Georgia


Bruh
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 4:21 pm to
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Once again confusing me with the Florida poster. I didn’t base my prediction on anything except for Kirby demonstrating he can lose to MuschaMp.




And yet you don't see the fallacy of that. I mean, didn't Orgeron lose to the Troy coach? Saban? Didin't he lose to the ULL coach? (I think it was ULL) Every coach in college football has lost to somebody they shouldn't have....probably. Let's just say the vast, vast, vast majority have lost a game they shouldn't have at one time or other.

Prove me wrong. Yet, based on that argument you say Georgia will get beaten by Arkansas.

ETA
Looked it up. Alabama and Nick Saban lost to Louisiana-Monroe. I guess that proves that Saban is not a very good coach and can't win. And yet, Alabama played for the SEC Championship the next year. Wow. Imagine that.


Look. I get it. your schtick is to say something wild and crazy and try to rile up some fan base. Get them to go wild. Maybe that is why you thought I was mad....because that was what you were hoping for. I have gotten pretty good at spotting trolls and not biting and going nuclear. Not every time, I admit....but most.
This post was edited on 8/16/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:33 pm to
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No one said it would be easy


There are a lot of people here who seem to think it'll be a seamless transition away from how you've recruited for the past two decades on offense. Do you expect it'll be a hybrid system? Or do you think it'll just be your previous system with different passing plays?

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1. The bar from 2019 was set low, so it doesn’t require full mastery to have improvement.



We agree on this, I think you're right here. However, how much better on offense would you need to be to beat LSU? I don't think that's going to be fixed in one off-season, especially considering the circumstances.

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2. We are loaded with talent.



That didn't stop LSU from kicking your teeth in twice in a row. That also didn't stop you guys from losing at home to South Carolina, and let's be honest: If their QB didn't go down, you guys would have lost by a lot more.

You can't just outmuscle every obstacle in a season.

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3. The start of the season was delayed, so that’s MORE time to get ready, not less.


Practices have been extremely limited this off-season and it's not even up to debate.

The quality and quantity of practicing has not been nearly as effective this year due to COVID.

You have wishful thinking here.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 5:43 pm to
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I love Straws posts.



Man, anyone can find bad takes on tRant, especially with people who actually make predictions.

Kind of like when you said in 2018 Florida wouldn't finish in the Top 15 and we finished 6th in the Coaches and 7th in the AP.

Oh yeah, we actually finished ahead of Georgia that year and tied in the AP.

Anyone can cherry pick, shite, that took me like five minutes looking through your posts and I was only looking for Florida content.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32874 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:22 pm to
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Do you expect it'll be a hybrid system? Or do you think it'll just be your previous system with different passing plays?


It will be a more balanced system with better route trees

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However, how much better on offense would you need to be to beat LSU?


It wouldn't have taken a lot of improvement on O to make the game last year much closer. Being healthy, which you chose to not acknowledge, and having a QB who didn't miss wide open WR's would make a huge difference.

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losing at home to South Carolina, and let's be honest: If their QB didn't go down, you guys would have lost by a lot more.


I highly doubt that. Hell, We may have won if their QB didnt go down.

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Practices have been extremely limited this off-season and it's not even up to debate.



Practice started earlier than normal this year, and the season is starting later than normal. That isnt up for debate.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:30 pm to
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will be a more balanced system with better route trees



I am looking forward to a power running game and better route trees in 2020.

A true vertical threat would open up a lot for our offense as well. Defenses in 2019 only had to defend 10 yards from the line of scrimmage with 10 guys for the most part. Good runs were not explosive. Receivers were unable to get separation (cager didnt need separation and the only other pass that was effective downfield was the backshoulder).
Posted by 00 Tech Grad
My homestead, AL
Member since Nov 2009
10720 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:37 pm to
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Yeah. It absolutely killed LSU last year.

You have been making proclamations about Georgia and Kirby Smart for 3 years now and have been wrong pretty much every time.

Ever hear the old saying: "Better to remain silent and thought a fool, than to open your mout


What LSU did in 2019 began well before the 2018 season even with Burrow and the addition of Brady in ‘19. O began recruiting for the spread offense when he was hired as HC. From ‘16 through ‘18 they still didn’t have enough of the style of athletes to run it effectively. The Matt Canada experiment failed as part of the growing pains.

2019 LSU didn’t just happen in a vacuum, or as “lightning in a bottle” (though many outsiders view it that way).

When Brady arrived in 2019, the pieces were already in place that were needed to fully transition to the spread offense with some Saints concepts.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 7:47 pm to
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Man, anyone can find bad takes on tRant, especially with people who actually make predictions.

Kind of like when you said in 2018 Florida wouldn't finish in the Top 15 and we finished 6th in the Coaches and 7th in the AP.

Oh yeah, we actually finished ahead of Georgia that year and tied in the AP.

Anyone can cherry pick, shite, that took me like five minutes looking through your posts and I was only looking for Florida content.



I predict 4 losses which would push you out of the top 15 in the final polls and Florida finished with 3 losses. I will own it. I was off by 1 loss. Texas a&m had 4 losses and they were outside the top 15. Great find on me being off by the way. +1 to you.

You literally predicted florida to run out the season with wins and your team proceeded to go 1-5 on the remaining schedule. You expect early season defensive success to stick at 10 ppg allowed and the next 4 weeks of 30+ppg pushes the season average to 20ppg.

Face it. You curse your team with your predictions.

Everyone gets predictions wrong. Everyone can also make a shite ton of money betting opposite your predictions on gambling sites.
Posted by PlateJohnsonIII
Member since Feb 2020
6159 posts
Posted on 8/16/20 at 8:24 pm to
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Look. I get it. your schtick is to say something wild and crazy and try to rile up some fan base. Get them to go wild.


Wow, dude. You need to take a step back. I made a bold prediction because it was fun and there’s not much going on with SEC sports right now. Next thing I knew a lizard poster was trolling Georgia fans and had them riled up. You are confusing me with a Florida person - not cool.

I just think Arkie gets 1 win this season and think it would be karmic justice if that win was Georgia.

Besides, if I really wanted to get people riled up, it’s easier to go after LSU fans. Georgia is low hanging fruit but still much lower yield than LSU.
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