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re: Arkansas v. UGA Analysis

Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:45 pm to
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:45 pm to
We put our second string QB in after the KJ Injury and pretty much said we’re going to run it every down and make you beat our defense.

We weren’t going to let Hornsby beat us and never let him throw it.

A&M scored on one over played run. Other than that Arkansas shut them down in the second half offensively.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 4:46 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72897 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:46 pm to
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They're our D's only glaring weakness right now



I don't think you know what "glaring" means. The secondary looks pretty damn good. Maybe they aren't as god-like as the font 7, but "glaring weakness" is a bit harsh. You are generally a good poster and I like you, but this is just an intellectually lazy statement. Seriously... our secondary has scored more touchdowns than our opponents have.
Posted by Jcpau
Member since May 2020
208 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:48 pm to
Can coaching and want to beat the jimmies and the joes?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:48 pm to
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Arkansas is greatly improved but they are not a playoff team


We're not and most everyone knows it. We only have 2 or 3 more shots at even being a disruption. I think the biggest game this week is Ole Miss Bama. Each will know the outcome of Dog Hog by kickoff.
Posted by DirtyDawg
President of the East Cobb Snobs
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:48 pm to
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I don't think you know what "glaring" means. The secondary looks pretty damn good. Maybe they aren't as god-like as the font 7, but "glaring weakness" is a bit harsh.



You're right. I was more intending to use it as "our only visible weakness/worrisome portion of the D" but glaring was definitely too harsh.

This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20350 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:49 pm to
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Can coaching and want to beat the jimmies and the joes?


Happens from time to time. Can Arkansas do it? Yes they can, will they? Who knows. We haven’t played a complete game all year and it’s going to take that to have a shot at the end.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:49 pm to
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UGA hasn’t had an effective rushing game for quite some time. They’ve struggled running the ball against pretty much every good D they’ve played in the last 2 seasons.



That's how it works. You run for a lot more yards against shite teams than quality teams. If a guy's season average is 6 ypc (very respectable) it's because it was 9 ypc vs the shite teams and 4 ypc vs the good teams. This is universal.
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1323 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:54 pm to
Good take especially for a non follower. The secondary is not the weak link on the team, it's the Oline. Speed is the guy that got burned on the 50-50 plays, and Ringo has overtaken him.

The interior of the Oline is suspect. The tackles are solid, nothing spectacular. They experimented against Vandy, so if they keep the same line up for Arky then they've determined the current starters are the best which is not good.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
4436 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:59 pm to
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That's how it works. You run for a lot more yards against shite teams than quality teams. If a guy's season average is 6 ypc (very respectable) it's because it was 9 ypc vs the shite teams and 4 ypc vs the good teams. This is universal.



Right. Except y’all really haven’t run well against the vast majority of teams good or bad. And we ran for 250 against Bama.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
72897 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:12 pm to
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Right. Except y’all really haven’t run well against the vast majority of teams good or bad. And we ran for 250 against Bama.



When the starting #1/#2 running backs are on the bench by the half, as well as starting OL, and the backups are just trying to run clock, it has skewed our stats so far in the first 4 games. Imagine if we'd left White and Cook in for 4 quarters vs Vandy, USC, and UAB. It's why I don't like comparing meta-stats only 1/3 through the season. Those stats tend to only mean something in the last 1/3 of the season.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:12 pm to
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Right. Except y’all really haven’t run well against the vast majority of teams good or bad. And we ran for 250 against Bama.



Eh, what?
AU-201
UT-193
Bama-145
UK-215
UF-165
USC-332
Mizzou-316
Clemson-121
UAB-163
USC-184
Vandy-244

We averaged 4.6 yards a carry last year and 4.9 yards a carry this year. The only team to be successful stopping our run game was MSU who sold out to stop the run and gave up 400 yards passing and Cincy who did the same thing with similar results.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
22830 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:17 pm to
True. I’d like to see how many snaps the 1s on D and O have taken.

Pretty much just a 1.5 games since Clemson (3 first halves)
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
6886 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:21 pm to
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Arkansas covers. UGA wins 24-16


Well written and I hope we keep it that close on Saturday. I'm looking for it to be a two TD difference in this game.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
4436 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:22 pm to
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AU-201
UT-193
Bama-145
UK-215
UF-165
USC-332
Mizzou-316
Clemson-121
UAB-163
USC-184
Vandy-244


Right. And if you take out Vandy, Scar 2020, and Mizzou 2020 bc all those teams are vastly inferior to yall — those are some very underwhelming rushing yards. And honestly I wasn’t even really critiquing yards/gm. More like situational rushing opportunities. As UGA is our main competitor, I watch all of y’all’s games. Y’all have struggled running the ball in 3rd and short and many other key run situations for quite some time now. Also, the number of explosive run plays is very little. Outside of Zamir White busting a huge run against us last year I feel like I haven’t seen UGA really break off huge chunk plays nearly as often as they use to. I think you could agree with that.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
22830 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:30 pm to
Monken is running an RPO spread and the explosive runs have not been there, no. But I think that’s personnel right now. Zeus/Cook aren’t really ones to break off a long one. When you’re comparing it to Gurley, Michel, Chubb, and Swift it doesn’t help either. Thats 4 of the top 5/6/7 RBs to ever play at UGA came through in a small window.

Kirby and Monken seem content on getting a lot of our explosives through the passing game.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:33 pm to
Well, you said we haven’t been successful against good or bad teams so I listed all of them. I’d say comparing how many yards a team usually gives up rushing vs what we did to them is a good stat and I feel like UGA usually beats that mark. Also, we’re throwing the ball more which is impacting our run game.

The number of explosive runs is definitely down this year. Our longest run to date is 24 yards.

Let’s look up our 3rd and short numbers before we say it’s not going well though.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33369 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:36 pm to
It’s actually hilarious that people think this will be a game.

Georgia is going to drag their nuts all over BigTitboss and his pigs.

Hopefully it will shut these clowns up for awhile
Posted by Kriegschwein
Alemania
Member since Feb 2015
855 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:51 pm to
We’ve been a second half team except for aTm. Purely due to KJ getting gimpy after the linebacker tried to throw him in the stands.

Have no idea how this plays out. Like zero. Too many variables.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43030 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:54 pm to
Nothing that will happen in this game will surprise me.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9746 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 5:56 pm to
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It’s week 4


it's week 5.


quote:

Arkansas is greatly improved but they are not a playoff team


if the hogs win this weekend. would you maintain this view?

or would you then be hard pressed to find a game they lose by default through the regular season?

I assume most believe (like I do) that UGA is probably the most elite team in the country, and what I find to be the better indicator is that they are one of the most physical teams. I like them better than I do Bama. this year's Bama team just isn't as good as they have been, and look beatable. that is primarily due to them just not being as physical as we have come to expect. they sawft. people just assume Bama is as physical as Georgia because of their name. the play on the field says otherwise. I think arkansas is the most physical team in the country. week in and week out they just got more of it than anyone else. Georgia is the only other team I've seen that looks to be on par with them, and they have freaks athletically. which makes them my #1 team. though like pittman said "we don't have to have the best players. just the best team" which if they win I would be hard pressed to find anyone down the schedule who I would say beats the hogs automatically. that includes Bama.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 5:59 pm
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