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re: Arkansas 24 vs. Virginia Tech 35 / F

Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
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Maybe the biggest screw job I have ever seen by a ref.


So you missed the Arkansas/Florida game 6 or 7 years ago.
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
7433 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
Bert's on the rules committee too. With that beard, he's a true renaissance man.
Posted by bville_hog
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
Could the holding on VT have happened before the punt?
Posted by bville_hog
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:29 pm to
Could the holding on VT have happened before the punt?
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:30 pm to
The change of possession happens on the punt. It's VA Tech's ball once punted. Why do you think if it's downed by the kicking team it's not thier ball?

The refs just screwed up, they thought Arkansas recovered the fumble and refumbled. The booth never corrected this.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 6:30 pm
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:30 pm to
could have they threw the flag early
Posted by Cargeaux89
Memphis
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:31 pm to
And that's biased and wrong Arkansas never even had possession of the ball. Not even close
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:31 pm to
Only thing I got from all this that I understand clearly is that Mike Patrick wants his damn diet soda, and he wants it NOW!!!!!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:32 pm to
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The change of possession happens on the punt. It's VA Tech's ball once punted. Why do you think if it's downed by the kicking team it's not thier ball?

The refs just screwed up, they thought Arkansas recovered the fumble and refumbled. The booth never corrected this.
this is correct
Posted by 870rzrback
Member since Dec 2016
16 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:32 pm to
The holding didn't happen before the punt but it did happen before vatech had possession. Until they actually possess the ball technically arkansas still has possession so the penalty still happened while we possessed the ball
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32684 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:32 pm to
If the hold happens before the punt, say on a gunner at the line of scrimmage, then it can result in a first down for the kicking team. Does the location that Arkansas got the ball work with this?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:33 pm to
Mike Patrick is the blowhard of all blowhards.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:33 pm to

Arkansas
RUSHING ATT YDS TD LONG
Rawleigh Williams III 9 31 0 9
Austin Allen 3 6 1 3
Deon Stewart 1 5 0 5
Drew Morgan 1 4 0 4
T.J. Hammonds 1 2 0 2
Devwah Whaley 3 -2 0 1
Kody Walker 1 -3 0 -3
Total 19 43 1
PASSING CP-ATT-INT YDS TD LONG
Austin Allen 13-16-0 215 2 36
Total 13-16-0 215 2

Virginia Tech
RUSHING ATT YDS TD LONG
Jerod Evans 10 41 0 33
Bucky Hodges 1 15 0 15
Cam Phillips 2 9 0 15
Sam Rogers 1 2 0 2
Travon McMillian 4 -1 0 4
Total 18 66 0
PASSING CP-ATT-INT YDS TD LONG
Jerod Evans 9-17-1 114 0 38
Team 0-1-0 0 0 0
Total 9-18-1 114 0
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 6:34 pm
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:33 pm to
galloway is such a little bitch ...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

The holding didn't happen before the punt but it did happen before vatech had possession. Until they actually possess the ball technically arkansas still has possession so the penalty still happened while we possessed the ball
You are an idiot
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

RThe holding didn't happen before the punt but it did happen before vatech had possession. Until they actually possess the ball technically arkansas still has possession so the penalty still happened while we possessed the ball


That works for me.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:34 pm to
Where Arkansas got the ball is further evidence of the botch. They somehow awarded a first down to Arkansas based on the post punt penalty. Everything about that call was mishandled.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
32684 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Until they actually possess the ball technically arkansas still has possession so the penalty still happened while we possessed the ball


That is incorrect. See above. The kicking team downs a punt and doesn't get possession because it isn't a live ball. The ball is automatically the receiving team's when it is kicked.

The muff created a live ball, but it's just like if a fumble is recovered out of bounds. The last team with possession keeps the ball. Arkansas NEVER had possession. Because of the situation on a punt, the receiving team is the only one that had legitamate possession at any time after the kick, and that was only by default.
This post was edited on 12/29/16 at 6:37 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107977 posts
Posted on 12/29/16 at 6:35 pm to
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That works for me.
and you are an idiot too

Possession changes the moment the ball hits he punters foot

Hence why the returning team doesn't need to scramble to get the ball....
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