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re: Arian Foster admits to taking money at UT

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Posted by npt817
Prairieville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
1663 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:38 pm to
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Time to take the money OUT of college athletics. Stop making academic exceptions for athletes. Allow only real students into colleges. The fans won't disappear. Limit construction budgets, facilities, etc. to a level every school within a competitive division can equally compete.



Sorry your a Missouri fan.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:38 pm to
You aren't trolling us or making us mad. We're all just dumbstruck at how idiotic everything you're saying is.
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:40 pm to
So, if we are going to start just paying players, can SMU have 1987 and 1988 back?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:40 pm to
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We're talking 15K * 85 = $1.275M in scholarships for a football team for the year.


nope, not even close

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LSU's annual football revenue for 2009-10 was $69.4M.


What were their expenses?

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No idea off the top of my head.


I'll help you out, there are only about 20 or so teams
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:40 pm to
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I could say this about most employees working for any major corporation. No one thinks they make fair money compared to the profits their company brings in.


You are forgetting the fact that the NCAA and the Big 5 football conferences are all training them for their future fields of endeavor ... with most not making it to the NFL but those that do certainly benefit from the experience by the time they do enter the draft.

Show me another corporation that does the same for 15,000 student and/or athletes a year.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
17909 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:41 pm to
agree with notsince98, Universities are equally responsible for this debacle.

They're the ones admitting kids who can't read.
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:41 pm to
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You aren't trolling us or making us mad. We're all just dumbstruck at how idiotic everything you're saying is.


He really has accomplished something..all the fanbases are in complete agreement on the inappropriateness of his comparison.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:42 pm to
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We're all just dumbstruck at how idiotic everything you're saying is.


I think Joe needs to bow down to whatever spaghetti monster he worships and thank him/her/it that he doesn't have to think about breathing - because honestly, I think he's too stupid to remember that he'd need to.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
11323 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:43 pm to
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What kind of money do you think the players should be paid? Keep in mind that the LSU football program PROFITS around $50 million per year.

Whatever an open market for the players ends up deciding on. I'd just about guarantee it'd be higher than the ~$1.2M/yr in scholarships that a public school like LSU pays out for all 85 of its players (coming out to ~15K/player/yr).
This post was edited on 9/20/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Stephen A. Burroughs
I'm not a rapper
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:45 pm to
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Whatever an open market for the players ends up deciding on. I'd just about guarantee it'd be higher than the ~$1.2M/yr in scholarships that a public school like LSU pays out for all 85 of its players (coming out to ~15K/player/yr).


So, with every serious bone in your body, you're actually suggesting we let college athletics become a bidding war? You do understand what Title IX is right?
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
11323 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:47 pm to
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nope, not even close

So is the NCAA wrong on their own numbers or something? Fill me in.

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What were their expenses?

Presumably about $20M since the revenue, as another LSU fan posted a little bit ago, is $50M/yr.

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I'll help you out, there are only about 20 or so teams

Okay, and? So good* schools can afford to pay more, and in an open market, would, to get top players. Bad* schools just offer a scholarship, and the second-tier athletes take it because it's still better than nothing. Considering virtually all the top-flight talent goes to good* programs anyway, this isn't an issue.

*: Good/bad (in terms of the quality of the football program) is more or less interchangeable with "more monied/less monied" here. That's just the state of college football today
Posted by PropJoe
Member since May 2011
933 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:47 pm to
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You do understand what Title IX is right?


Letting people outside the university pay these kids for their services would have no effect on title 9.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2308 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:48 pm to
If we pay players it will hurt the little schools and it will hurt the non money making sports.


I'm totally cool with those consequences.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
41934 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:50 pm to
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Letting people outside the university pay these kids for their services would have no effect on title 9.


Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:50 pm to
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Letting people outside the university pay these kids for their services would have no effect on title 9.


Oh yes it would. It absolutely would. Whatever outside monies were available to the players would be codified in the NCAA rulebook, and therefore subject to Title IX.
Posted by PropJoe
Member since May 2011
933 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:51 pm to
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Oh yes it would. It absolutely would. Whatever outside monies were available to the players would be codified in the NCAA rulebook, and therefore subject to Title IX.


No it wouldnt. If the schools were paying these kids it would, but you cant force a car dealer to give a field hockey player a car because he did for a football player.
Posted by BearBait09
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
2308 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:51 pm to
Title 9 is dumb.

make all sports co-ed and let the best players make the roster. Tell me how thats not fair.
Posted by Stuttgart Tiger
Branson, MO
Member since Jan 2006
15392 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:51 pm to
I had tacos for lunch.

For the record - they weren't supplied by a coach at the Univ. of Tennessee!
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 9/20/13 at 1:52 pm to
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Letting people outside the university pay these kids for their services would have no effect on title 9.


If the NCAA tries to mandate it it would.
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