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re: Are we sure LSU controls their destiny?

Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:37 am to
Posted by DCTXLA
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:37 am to
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I give TCU: 60% chance to win @ Texas 70% chance to win @ Baylor 85% chance to win vs Iowa St 65% chance to win BIG XII game


Why? Hasn’t TCU had to come from behind on every game this season? At some point, it’s going to catch up to them.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:38 am to
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Why? Hasn’t TCU had to come from behind on every game this season? At some point, it’s going to catch up to them.


Yeah, I agree. Which is why I gave them a 23% chance to win out….
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:38 am to
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Picking Oregon specifically over Georgia would be an absolutely unprecedented move


not really when you consider that winning your conference with 0/1 loss is priority one in the history of playoff selections. If you don't win your conference, but do only have 1 loss, you're at th eback of the line and would need a bit of help from others.

Logically I agree with you that it'd be a pretty big slap in the face to UGA, but on the other hand there has to be a reward for winning your conference and if you're a 1-loss P5 champion you will/should pretty much assuredly be in.

It's a tough choice that I hope doesn't come to fruition but it's fun to think about. Personally I'm pretty confident we won't have to deal with that sceaniro in real life. Things typically seem to work themselves out nicely after 13 games.
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:39 am to
Damn BK doing this in year 1
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:41 am to
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Yeah, I agree. Which is why I gave them a 23% chance to win out….


But you also have them favored to win every game
Posted by RosyFinchBOYZ
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:41 am to
I don’t see LSU beating Georgia, so I’ll worry about the playoffs after the title game. But if you told me after Florida State and Tennessee that I’d potentially be melting because the Playoff committee leaves us at 5 I could live with that. I’m just going to hope for a vintage Bo Nix game.
Posted by Team Vote
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:41 am to
LSU needs plenty of help to get in. To echo the above comments, I’ll be thrilled just to be in Atlanta. If we make a good showing there, I’ll be thrilled with NY6. Everything after last Saturday is lagniappe to 98% of us.

For example, if we get left out in favor of a UT team that beat us by 4 TDs on our own field, I don’t think you’ll find many of us saying in our heart of hearts that it isn’t fair.

Last thing I’ll say, every LSU fan you met walking out of Tiger Stadium on Black Friday 2007 after the Arkansas loss would have told you the NC dream is over. Then all hell broke loose the next week. And that was for a two team playoff, not four. Just keep winning and see what happens.
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:42 am to
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The SEC champ goes, no matter what.


Let’s say Lsu loses to Arkansas or A&M and ole miss loses to bama. You still think a 3 loss lsu team that wins the sec is a lock?
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:43 am to
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But you also have them favored to win every game


Someone doesn’t understand basic probability rules
Posted by Solo Cam
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:43 am to
I fricking love diddlesdawgs7 is melting about lsu
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:44 am to
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I fricking love diddlesdawgs7 is melting about lsu


for starting a relevant discussion topic?

Seems like you’re melting, weirdo

Posted by upgrade
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:45 am to
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Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:45 am to
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LSU-We beat the #1 team that beat Oregon by 46



And Georgia blew out tennessee who blew out lsu. Should they get in over LSU even if they lose in the SECCG?
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:46 am to
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I can guarantee you 12-1 Georgia gets in over 12-1 Oregon or 11-1 Tennessee considering the head to head


This is what is so intriguing about the whole thing. Who gets in?

Georgia absolutely crushed Oregon and handily beat Tennessee.

Tennessee lost to Georgia but dominated LSU.

So in the scenario that LSU were to run the table, who do you leave out?

Oregon who would be the 1 loss PAC-12 champ?
Georgia who beat both Tennessee and Oregon easily?
Tennessee who easily beat LSU?
Or LSU who JUST beat Georgia and are SEC Champs?

We likely won't see the situation play out but dear lord the build up to the playoff announcement would be epic.
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:46 am to
I understand just fine.

What I’m asking, is how you came up with the percentages for each game. I would be very surprised to see them so heavily favored in each matchup given their prior performance this season.

This is amplified by you giving them a 60% to win at Texas, in a game Texas is favored by a TD.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:47 am to
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not really when you consider that winning your conference with 0/1 loss is priority one in the history of playoff selections. If you don't win your conference, but do only have 1 loss, you're at th eback of the line and would need a bit of help from others.

Logically I agree with you that it'd be a pretty big slap in the face to UGA, but on the other hand there has to be a reward for winning your conference and if you're a 1-loss P5 champion you will/should pretty much assuredly be in.
Maybe, but the committee knows: a.) that not all conferences are equal, and b.) that specific sentiment can go out the window when one non-conference champion (from a stronger conference) played said conference champion under consideration and completely decimated them. Again, it's not like Georgia beat them by one possession.

Alabama in 2017 is a good example, albeit Ohio State did have 2 losses, so that is admittedly a different scenario.
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It's a tough choice that I hope doesn't come to fruition but it's fun to think about. Personally I'm pretty confident we won't have to deal with that sceaniro in real life. Things typically seem to work themselves out nicely after 13 games.
Well, there's always that. Go 13-0, worry about nothing

But I personally believe if LSU upsets Georgia to have the dawgs fall to 12-1, the same thing that happened in 2021 will happen again, but Georgia may be the 4-seed against the 1-seed Ohio St/Michigan winner (my money would be on Ohio St over Michigan out of those two)
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 10:48 am
Posted by Toroballistic
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:49 am to
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You sure Georgia goes over LSU in your scenario?


In 2016 Ohio St (11-1) got in over Penn St(11-2) even thought Penn St beat Ohio St and won the conference.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:49 am to
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What I’m asking, is how you came up with the percentages for each game


I literally said in my post those are my percentages. I made them up based on my perception of the quality of teams.

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This is amplified by you giving them a 60% to win at Texas, in a game Texas is favored by a TD.


I consider TCU better than Texas and think TCU would win 6/10 times on Texas’s field.

Posted by Team Vote
DFW
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:52 am to
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This is what is so intriguing about the whole thing. Who gets in? Georgia absolutely crushed Oregon and handily beat Tennessee. Tennessee lost to Georgia but dominated LSU. So in the scenario that LSU were to run the table, who do you leave out?

I think in this scenario they use the non-conference to decide. And ranking the non conference resume is pretty clearly:

UGA
UT
LSU
Posted by justaniceguy
Member since Sep 2020
5861 posts
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:54 am to
Personally I would pick Oregon because they are the only 1 loss champion. The championship has to mean something.

Playoffs should be TCU, Oregon, Georgia, and Ohio state/Michigan winner, assuming these teams win out. If TCU or Georgia drop 1 but still win the championship they should still be in. If Oregon goes to 2 loses they should be left out for Tennessee or the mich/osu loser, or even Clemson.

Now if LSU beats Georgia it will be interesting who gets left out. Wouldn’t be surprised if Georgia is still in over lsu though.
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